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Originally Posted by jeffrey
"strong passwords" you mean like the single click option in CCbill to create random alphanumeric with special charactors?
Now I think StrongBox is ok, I know lots that use it trouble free, I just dont think stronger passwords is really a marketing feature.
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No, that's not what I mean. Well, that's a small part of it.
Just using random passesthey can and often are ripped just the same as
if the user chooses them, which is why Frog has to issue new passwords,
because the original passwords aren't secure. There is more that we
do to make sure that crackers can't get the passwords, unless of course
the member gives it out.
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LOL, can you REALLY picture one of these password sharers sitting at his computer all day long giving out the new pass as it comes to his email... Hell no. Maybe 3-4 times at most.
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All it takes is one line in his .procmail file and then the server side include
in the page keeps it updated. I don't have to PICTURE this happening, I SEE
it all day long in the wild.
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How many users would StrongBox let in befor killing it? I never did find an answer to that question when I was looking.
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Generally one or two, but with a certain feature that I can't publicly discuss that
makes it tend much more toward one than in the case of Frog, for example.
This feature that I don't care to tell the Frog guys about tends to make Strongbox
less likely to block the one valid user and more likely to discourage a single
friend sharing it.
Truthfully, though, there isn't much difference here between the modern systems,
basically Strongbox and Frog, nor can there ever be. Contrary to Frog's marketing hype, the graphs of real world trading statistics we've previously
posted show that when passwords are shared they almost always spread
around to many people very quickly. If it's not immediately posted, a friend
gives it to another friend, who gives it to three more friends, and within hours
30 people are trying to use it. So either modern system will stop it within a
couple of hours. Strongbox will tend to have lower bandwidth usage during that
short time before it's blocked, but either system will stop it quickly.
Strongbox wil have fewer false positives - legitimate users blocked because
they get an IP that was at one time assigned to an ISP headquarted far away.
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But 150 one time fee, per protected area.
3 paysites, each site with 6 zipsets. With Strong box that would be a one time fee of 3150 or jsut over 3 years worth of these montly fees.
But then you run into the problem of setting up strongbox with zip sets. Now sure zipsets are mostly limited to nn/topless sites, but guess what, thats what I run.
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That is NOT correct. Several people use Strongbox with a similar zip set type
site, and at a reasonable price. Strongbox is not priced per protected area,
but per site.