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Old 09-02-2007, 05:24 PM  
jeffrey
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Quote:
Originally Posted by raymor View Post
we start out by blocking fewer people in the first place. More to
the point, we help webmasters set up strong passwords that won't be
compromised, so any passwords that get out were almost certainly given out
by the "members".
"strong passwords" you mean like the single click option in CCbill to create random alphanumeric with special charactors?
Now I think StrongBox is ok, I know lots that use it trouble free, I just dont think stronger passwords is really a marketing feature.


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Originally Posted by raymor View Post
You guys address that problem by assuming that it's always hackers
and a "member", who may have signed up with a stolen credit card
just for the purpose of getting a pass to share, is always innocent, so you
keep giving him new passwords and if he keeps sharing them oh well.

I wouldn't give out my password, so it wouldn't be an issue if the site used
Strongbox in the recommended configuration. I certainly wouldn't expect
to have predicatble constant access if I kept giving out my passwords to
10,000 of my closest friends.

Why would they care if they accidently got one blocked?
By the time they know it's blocked they already have a fresh
new one in their inbox, courtesy of Frog.
LOL, can you REALLY picture one of these password sharers sitting at his computer all day long giving out the new pass as it comes to his email... Hell no. Maybe 3-4 times at most.
How many users would StrongBox let in befor killing it? I never did find an answer to that question when I was looking.

Some guy sharring a pass with a few of his buddies... that will happen regardless of what protection you use. But I know if I was sharing with a couple buddies they would get access once, but then it would be a pain in the ass for me to keep updating them with the password. That might cause one of them to maybe sign up if they didnt get their fix the first time...

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Originally Posted by Jace View Post
let me add also, I HATE services like this that make it a monthly fee

i want a base price, one time, that I pay....I even don't mind paying $10-20 for an update...but I hate monthly fees for this type of shit
So how do you pay for you server? ;) I do see your point that your trying to make though.
But 150 one time fee, per protected area.
3 paysites, each site with 6 zipsets. With Strong box that would be a one time fee of 3150 or jsut over 3 years worth of these montly fees.
But then you run into the problem of setting up strongbox with zip sets. Now sure zipsets are mostly limited to nn/topless sites, but guess what, thats what I run.




With all this said, I still have really picked what one I will be using, but Frog is definatly winning.
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