Session Start (jacejacejacejace:CalmDev): Fri May 25 14:51:45 2007
[14:53] Jace: someone else bailed on us and we have to start from scratch
[14:53] Jace: can I send you the doc with the info?
[14:53] CalmDev: Ok, do you have any details of the job written up?
[14:53] CalmDev: yeah, [email protected]
[14:54] Jace: sent, everything is in that doc, let me know if you have ANY questions.....we need someone to start ASAP and can pay a deposit if needed
[14:54] CalmDev: Ok, I'll read over it. Give me a few minutes.
[14:54] Jace: the other dude spent 4 months jerking us around til he finally diappeared
[14:54] Jace: cool, i will be here for another hour or so
[14:54] CalmDev: god damn that's not cool
[14:54] Jace: not one bit
[14:54] Jace: LOL
[14:55] CalmDev: 4 months? what a waste of time.
[14:55] Jace: totally man, we needed this done 3 months ago, it is literally costing us at least $10k a month not having it done
[14:55] CalmDev: ouch, ok reading over the documents now.
[14:55] Jace: cool
[14:59] Jace: btw, just for reference, I have all the old programmers code....not sure what good it will do you though, I am pretty sure he was terrible and couldn't do it which is why he bailed
[14:59] Jace: LOL
[15:00] CalmDev: Yeah, that's usually the reason people bail. I don't understand why people take on jobs that they can't complete. I'm still reading..
[15:20] CalmDev: Do you have a url for the work the old programmer had completed?
[15:20] Jace: live on the web or just source files?
[15:22] CalmDev: Something live I just want to see what he was doing. If not you can send me the source files...even though I wont be using them
[15:22] Jace: (Link: http://www.xxxxxxx.com)http://www.xxxxxxx.com 
[15:22] Jace: u.  Closer001
 p.  octc
[15:22] Jace: i think that was in the doc
[15:22] CalmDev: Oh, ok I saw this already
[15:22] CalmDev: yeah it was
[15:22] Jace: let me zip up the source for you
[15:23] CalmDev: wow, so it took him 4 months to do that? lol, I just though that was the old system... then your guy flaked out on designing the new one. Didn't realize this was his work...
[15:24] Jace: yes, that is 4 months worth of work
[15:24] Jace: we have only used one guy so far, this is what he did, nothing
[15:24] Jace: from the looks of the code it looks like he had more stuff done, but nothing he showed us
[15:25] Jace: (Link: http://www.justjace.com/xxxx/xxx.zip)http://www.justjace.com/xxxx/xxxx.zip
[15:28] CalmDev: Well I can do the project it's not going to be a problem for me. However I am going to have some questions and will not be able to get started until tomorrow. I have to finish up something today and once I am done I'll do a write up with any questions I have. For now I'm gonna print out this document so I can mark it up and get my questions together. It's a big project and I'm not sure of the cost yet. Tomorrow I will also be able to give you an answer. Where you paying the other guy hourly or a flat cost?
[15:29] CalmDev: Were you* sorry
[15:29] Jace: we agreed on a flat cost with him, but we can pay hourly, I know that is how you like it
[15:29] Jace: any time frame that you think you can knock it out in?
[15:34] CalmDev: Ok, I just downloaded the zip. Just curious - what did you spend to have that little bit of code done? I hope it wasn't much. I'll have a more accurate time frame tomorrow as well. I don't want to estimate without being 100% of all the requirements and work involved, but to be safe it's gonna take me at least 10 - 14 days. I just got done doing a big CMS for fris' and it took me about 47 hours of recorded work. which worked out to a little over 1 week. He had every single detail ready for me
[15:35] Jace: haha, yeah, fris told me about it, haha
[15:35] Jace: the other guy refunded our money, but it was a little over $700 or so
[15:35] Jace: BTW, my partner (the brains of the real estate end of this) is on AIM...ANY questions you might have about how the software needs to work can be asked to him his AIM is "xxxxxxxxx"
[15:35] Jace: i gave him your AIM to add you to
[15:35] CalmDev: ha, cool. I just got done doing another one a few days ago as well for a different dude.
[15:35] CalmDev: Ok, I'll add him.
[15:35] Jace: he is computer stupid though, which is why I am handling this end of it
[15:35] Jace: LOL
[15:36] CalmDev: Yeah, ha well I'll email you my  questions so you can look over them, then from there you can forward them to him I guess...
[15:36] Jace: kickass
[15:37] CalmDev: My questions will be more detailed then that other programmers. I'll have quite a few I'm sure.
[15:37] Jace: ok, I am heading out to hang with the family, i will talk with you tomorrow
[15:37] CalmDev: Ok, sounds good. Thanks jace
[15:37] Jace: sure thing, look forward to working with you again :)
[15:37] CalmDev: : - )
Session Close (CalmDev): Fri May 25 15:38:23 2007