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AOLGuy · 01-28-2003, 09:57 PM

I think that the original post expresses a pretty common sentiment.

I have had models flake, some who are in the biz and some who are just starting out, and every time it is SO frustrating.

It is one thing not to book a shoot or decide along the way that you aren't into it.

But to sometimes spend the hours on the phone, especially with someone new to the biz, and put in genuine effort to make them feel comfortable, only to have them not show without so much as a phone call or email, and well, it is rather annoying.

Especially if you have discussed everything to the point where there is no confusion. I've had it happen numerous times on simple solo posing shoots, nothing complex or hardcore.

I respect what was expressed in the above rebuttal--but have this happen to you once, maybe at your home or studio. Then have it happen when you are in the model's town and arranged to be there and have an upscale hotel for the shoot, then have it happen when you go out of your way to get a studio in the area to shoot two or three girls in a day and have two or all three flake.

Does it have something to do with professionalism? It can, but in my experience if I do not "click" with someone, they never arrange a shoot or I never make an official offer.

I go out of my way to project a professionalism and respect, and first and foremost putting them at ease.

Most newcomers flake because they can't go through with it--which is understandable, but it still makes me feel like I wasted my time.

Girls who have modelled for awhile--well, I made the mistake of trying to book a few who did hardcore when I wanted them for solo posing. Day of the shoot comes, they get a more lucrative offer to go blow six guys for a video company, and I don't even get a phone call--but occasionally a thinly veiled apology to reschedule, always citing a family emergency.

I understand why some people get so jaded, and I think it is tough to strike the right balance. Yes, the models are what drive content of this business--but no one should ever feel like they are at their mercy.

All I know is that if I agree on a time for a shoot, I am there. If I am running behind, I let her know. If I reschedule, I initiate contact as soon as possible.

AKFK

01-28-2003, 09:57 PM
AOLGuy Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Nebraska Posts: 1,261	I think that the original post expresses a pretty common sentiment. I have had models flake, some who are in the biz and some who are just starting out, and every time it is SO frustrating. It is one thing not to book a shoot or decide along the way that you aren't into it. But to sometimes spend the hours on the phone, especially with someone new to the biz, and put in genuine effort to make them feel comfortable, only to have them not show without so much as a phone call or email, and well, it is rather annoying. Especially if you have discussed everything to the point where there is no confusion. I've had it happen numerous times on simple solo posing shoots, nothing complex or hardcore. I respect what was expressed in the above rebuttal--but have this happen to you once, maybe at your home or studio. Then have it happen when you are in the model's town and arranged to be there and have an upscale hotel for the shoot, then have it happen when you go out of your way to get a studio in the area to shoot two or three girls in a day and have two or all three flake. Does it have something to do with professionalism? It can, but in my experience if I do not "click" with someone, they never arrange a shoot or I never make an official offer. I go out of my way to project a professionalism and respect, and first and foremost putting them at ease. Most newcomers flake because they can't go through with it--which is understandable, but it still makes me feel like I wasted my time. Girls who have modelled for awhile--well, I made the mistake of trying to book a few who did hardcore when I wanted them for solo posing. Day of the shoot comes, they get a more lucrative offer to go blow six guys for a video company, and I don't even get a phone call--but occasionally a thinly veiled apology to reschedule, always citing a family emergency. I understand why some people get so jaded, and I think it is tough to strike the right balance. Yes, the models are what drive content of this business--but no one should ever feel like they are at their mercy. All I know is that if I agree on a time for a shoot, I am there. If I am running behind, I let her know. If I reschedule, I initiate contact as soon as possible. AKFK