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					Originally Posted by  RawAlex
					 
				 
				Bush is a creation out of whole cloth.  The entire family has been formed and molded into "leadership" material, and for the most part they aren't really leaders, but puppets for the guys in the back pulling the strings.  Karl Rove won the last election, but the people foolishly though they were voting for Bush. 
 
Lack of experience is one of those things.  Nobody wants to fly with a pilot on his first day, nobody wants the to get an operation from the intern, and so on.  Experience is something that nobody wants to be earned against them.  The Senate and the house are the places where politicians can get all their stupid stuff out, and refine their message and their goals based on the reality of Washington and modern politics.  Obama ain't got much of that going for him. 
 
He really would make a great VP at this point.  Clinton - Obama ticket would likely be a sure win, giving the first woman president and a "black" VP, which would appeal heavily to the democratic voters, and would allow them to run a more middle of the road message which would get the swing voters.  Republicans have nobody out there at this point that can do much with the swing vote, IMHO. 
			
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 I will fully agree that a Clinton ticket with Obama as the VP would be the best possible case for the democrats. One of the democrats problems is that the far left often doesn't vote. A ticket with a woman and a black guy might actually activate them and get them to the polls.  
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
	
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