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Gerco · 08-12-2007, 08:46 AM

True Paul, I did take the cost break down from my own point of views and experiences, hard to speak of anything but. Content is king. If your fortunate enough to be able to shoot your own (like I was) and then find that your also lucky enough that people are willing to actually pay for the content you just shot (which again I was) then your cost go WAY down. There are a lot of ways to get content if your able to shoot. You can hire models, do content swaps where both, or all, parties share the resulting content and no money changes hands. Bring talent in as exclusive and build sites around them etc. BUT even having the content is not enough, I can list other sites that did similar content to mine, people that over the years I actually shot with, who have been gone for a long time now. This is a tricky and fickle business. Once you build a site, even if you do happen to get lucky enough to make it self sustaining, you then need to find ways to take it further, affiliate programs self marketing yada yada, if your a one man shop there is a point where you just can not grow that much more because there are just not enough hours left in the day for you to work, OR life comes at you and take more of your time away from site your building. It's hard to find people you can trust to work with as everyone is in this for the buck and nothing else. People talk a lot about the BRO factor, but it's a very real thing and for a good reason, for the most part this group has found a way to work together and make money together and there is a level of trust that has been achieved that most of us will never find. Once you find that you hold onto it.

Paul you, also spoke of saturation. Thats a 2 edge sword. It's hard to tell where the breaking point is for saturation. If your stuffs all exclusive and your in a nitch then you have to still worry about too much content actually getting out and becoming "old" If your buying content thats none exclusive, then your already fighting a losing battle, cause you have no branding and have to figure out how to make money with something that a LOT of other people are also tossing out in the web at the same time (and in the same places) Don't kid yourself here, the internet is NOT as big as you think it is.

And, after all is said and done, you still building something that could become worthless with the stroke of a pen in same lawmakers office. Understand these risks and work within the laws and your "should" be fine.

Sorry to be rambling here, I do find this to be a really good subject and wish more people from other points would chime in. Unfortunately, most in this business today are scared that if they actually talk about the inner workings that they will somehow lose money or someone will steal some great idea from them.

08-12-2007, 08:46 AM
Gerco Confirmed User Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 2,052	True Paul, I did take the cost break down from my own point of views and experiences, hard to speak of anything but. Content is king. If your fortunate enough to be able to shoot your own (like I was) and then find that your also lucky enough that people are willing to actually pay for the content you just shot (which again I was) then your cost go WAY down. There are a lot of ways to get content if your able to shoot. You can hire models, do content swaps where both, or all, parties share the resulting content and no money changes hands. Bring talent in as exclusive and build sites around them etc. BUT even having the content is not enough, I can list other sites that did similar content to mine, people that over the years I actually shot with, who have been gone for a long time now. This is a tricky and fickle business. Once you build a site, even if you do happen to get lucky enough to make it self sustaining, you then need to find ways to take it further, affiliate programs self marketing yada yada, if your a one man shop there is a point where you just can not grow that much more because there are just not enough hours left in the day for you to work, OR life comes at you and take more of your time away from site your building. It's hard to find people you can trust to work with as everyone is in this for the buck and nothing else. People talk a lot about the BRO factor, but it's a very real thing and for a good reason, for the most part this group has found a way to work together and make money together and there is a level of trust that has been achieved that most of us will never find. Once you find that you hold onto it. Paul you, also spoke of saturation. Thats a 2 edge sword. It's hard to tell where the breaking point is for saturation. If your stuffs all exclusive and your in a nitch then you have to still worry about too much content actually getting out and becoming "old" If your buying content thats none exclusive, then your already fighting a losing battle, cause you have no branding and have to figure out how to make money with something that a LOT of other people are also tossing out in the web at the same time (and in the same places) Don't kid yourself here, the internet is NOT as big as you think it is. And, after all is said and done, you still building something that could become worthless with the stroke of a pen in same lawmakers office. Understand these risks and work within the laws and your "should" be fine. Sorry to be rambling here, I do find this to be a really good subject and wish more people from other points would chime in. Unfortunately, most in this business today are scared that if they actually talk about the inner workings that they will somehow lose money or someone will steal some great idea from them. __________________ Http://www.extremehole.com ** CLOSED ** 400 HOURS of exclusive custom extreme content, already on external HD in Raw DV ready to encode. over 150,000 exclusive images and more.