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Originally Posted by yys
Afghanistan an illegal war?
Can you show me where your getting this legal opinion from because I don't think you have a clue as to what you are talking about?
I'm more then happy to eat crow on this; how about you?
Buzzy, still waiting on your source for the Israeli occupation of Southern Lebanon after the May 2000 pullout?
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The invasion of Afghanistan was illegal as defined by international law on many many levels, and if you believe anything otherwise I'd have to say YOU don't know what you're talking about...
At the time of the 9/11 incident, the attacks were as defined by US law as an "act of terrorism". Shortly after this the US government took a huge swing in their opinion, all of the sudden claiming it as an "act of war" at which point the propaganda machine began spinning it's wheels in support of these claims, demonizing Afghanistan. There was not at that time, or at this time for that matter, any evidence supporting the idea that Afghanistan (as a state) had anything to do with the ordering of the 9/11 attacks. The US, after suddenly changing it's opinion on the status of the attack as an "act of war" as opposed to an "act of terrorism", bypassed a dozen or so international treaties which deal with acts of terrorism like this, and took matter sinto their own hands.
Twice America went to the United nations Security Council for a resolution authorizing the use of military force against Afghanistan. They were denied both times. The UNSC defined it as an actof terrorism, failing to recognize it as an armed attack lead by any state. The invasion was never OK'd by the UNSC and technically is in violation of international law. Actually it represents a war of aggression on the part of the United States.
Did the United States really have any reason to go into Afghanistan? Fuck no. Did Afghanistan have any defenses? Not really. The intentions behind the invasion of Afghanistan had more to do with setting the precedent for launching a "preventative" war. America's newest war doctrine. They picked a country with little or no defense, which would allow for them to launch said illegal war with little or no consequence to their own numbers. Afghanistan served well for this purpose, and no one attempted to intervene as they did so, exactly what they were hoping for. This essentially gave the US the power to declare war against any state they saw fit to or consider a threat, regardless of international law. As long as they could drum up enough domestic support for an attack, regardless of proof or evidence, they canjustfy an invasion. Until the invasion of Afghanistan came along there was no such thing as a "preventative" war. This is a new doctrine supported only by the United States. It is this SAME doctrine that was shot down by the Nuremberg Tribunal when Nazi lawyers used it as their defense in Nuremberg!
There is no legal backing for any of this in international law. The US is in violation of several international treaties, which they rewrite for themselves however they see fit. They drum up domestic support of the war in people like you through the nonstop fear-mongering and misinformation on the part of the massive media outlets THAT THEY OWN...
The funny thing to me, is that though they have somehow justified this doctrine as the right of the United States of America, and they see themselves fit to attack anyone they consider a threat to their freedom, it still ONLY APPLIES TO THE UNITED STATES! What the fuck is that all about? By that standard there are several, if not dozens of nation right now which could easily consider the United States a threat to their own freedom, but surely we wouldn't let them launch a war against America. It's all a part of the American imperial strategy, and so far, it's working.
So the ball is in your court now, where is the legal backing for this? International legal backing that is, not bullshit legal backing formulated since then by the American government (which only holds up in America) either. I don't think you know what you're talking about...