Well, those "crude places" how you call that is something that we do like here, cause noone of us ever seen comfort while beeing raised up (unless you emigrated or your father was a big dog in communist party probably) - and you have the best memories from your kid or teen years from exactly these kinds of places.
For example this weekend I am also off to a place that most of the wealthy or "wealthy talking" GFY'ers never even had a nightmare about.. and I am sure I will have the best time, cause I will team up with my old drinking years mates.
Good thread anyway, bump
