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Originally Posted by LadyMischief
Actually, it's not covered if you don't have insurance, many of the treatments, the government can deny the request and you get the bill in the mail.. and you'd be surprised just what they won't cover.. It's pretty sick, actually. It's very much like an HMO type situation, except it's run by the government, not some company, so there's even less chance of fighting with them. Paying ridiculous amounts of taxes, add to that $250+ a month for extra medical insurance who are just as assholish about covering things as the government health care system is is definitely a nightmare... And it's province to province, not all provinces are "free". Albertans still pay for their health care coverage, every three months... it's definitely not cheap, either.. and they are still taxed to death. It's a very uneven system and with more and more immigrants coming into the country every day, it's a larger and larger burden altogether.
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Well the difference again is you have 2 chances to get the coverage. First is by govt second is by insurance if you have it. In the US the govt won't do shit for us and our HMO's will turn down anything they can.
If you need your appendix removed in your country it will happen regardless of if you have insurance or not. In the US if you have no insurance and it's not an emergency did it doesn't happen. BTW if it is an emergency and they do the operation, you still pay for it, because you get billed.
In Canada if you pay for that operation yourself, it's about $5k.. In the US the same operation will cost you around $20k. So tell me where you would rather be if you have no insurance?
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Originally Posted by LadyMischief
As far as wait times, if you look at the facts, Canada does have longer wait times... It's stated on CNN and Moore's site as factual statistics... I think the most terrible time of my life was watching my husband be incredibly ill for over a year with what they figured was cancer, but it still took almost 9 months JUST for him to see a specialist in order to get the road STARTED for diagnosis... It's now almost two years later and they are STILL not done the process, and it will be another 5 months before he can see the specialist again, and with no options to go to another specialist or do anything but sit on his heels and wait...
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I don't know how else I can word it.. Yes I understand Canada has longer wait times "right now" than what the US "currently" has.
However you are ignoring what I'm saying about in the US not everyone is currently covered with health insurance. If you add in all those millions of people that are not "currently covered with health insurance. Well the wait time in the US would be much longer than there are today.
Not to mention, if you add in all the people that are covered but get turned down by their HMO's. Honestly I think the 45 million number on people in the US not having any sort of coverage is very conservative.