To clear these matters up:
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Originally Posted by KimJI
- I never used Mars as a model.
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You're right. I confused you with another posting in support of your argument. I apologize.
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Originally Posted by KimJI
- homeostasis dont mean state of balance. Homeostasis is the ability to MAINTAIN a state of balance. There is a huge difference
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Yes, you are correct. And as my rhetoric on the word suggests, I understand that. As I said, all natural things tend toward a state of homeostasis. Continuing to argue this point would be to argue semantics, imho.
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Originally Posted by KimJI
- There are no Runaway Greenhouse effect on Venus.
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You're mistaken on this point. Ask any Astronomer. Ask any Planetary Scientist. Take any elementary Astronomy class. Simply Google the words "Venus Runaway" and bask in the 500+ results that come up with the word "greenhouse" after the words in bold, and you'll understand that you are mistaken.
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Originally Posted by KimJI
Greenhouse effect is the ability of the atmosphere to capture and recycle energy emitted by the surface.
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It's both surface and solar energy.... mostly solar. Not that it really matters... it's still heat energy, which is my point.
From the American Heritage Dictionary:
"greenhouse effect: 1. The phenomenon whereby the earth's atmosphere traps solar radiation, caused by the presence in the atmosphere of gases such as carbon dioxide, water vapor, and methane that allow incoming sunlight to pass through but absorb heat radiated back from the earth's surface.
2. A similar retention of solar radiation, as by another planet or in a solar panel."
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Originally Posted by KimJI
- You ask me to read, Im doing nothing but quoting books on the matter, so I dont get why you thing i dont read books. I made it quite clear from the beginning.
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I never said I don't think you read books... I wouldn't make such an assumption... I'm asking you to read on particular subjects so that you understand where you may be mistaken without me having to point it out... or so that you're better rounded on a subject.
I do think that anyone saying that there's absolutely no way humans are contributing to global warming has either not bothered to read enough on the subject, or is letting someone with an agenda outside the raw science do their thinking for them...
I don't see how a reasonable mind could deny that possibility.
Just as I don't see how a reasonable mind could assume that it's the only possibility.
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Originally Posted by KimJI
- Im out of time as well, But I do listen - just not agree all the time, mainly because you dont provide any facts to support your oppinion.
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I feel I've provided quite a few facts. The idea that you're not acknowledging that I have leads me to believe you're not listening.