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Old 07-13-2007, 04:17 PM  
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Originally Posted by KimJI View Post
homeostasis is the concept of a closed systems ability to regulate itself, and that is what earth is doing now, have done for millions of years and will do so for many more. So its not supporting the idea that we're affecting our environment.

Its still not a Runaway Greenhouse Effect here on earth. What goes on Venus have nothing to do with Greenhouse Effect, its the fact that the planet have a higher concentration of CO2. The fundamental structure of earth is different and can not under any circumstances be compared

The only "runaway" thing going on here is the fearmongering
I'm familiar with homeostasis. It simply means a state of balance. Most natural systems tend to attract toward a state of balance. Pretty much all physical elements in the universe are related to homeostasis. Homeostasis is at the center of our understanding of how things work.

And it can be easily translated to mean that if we push, the planet pushes back. "For every action, there is an oposite and equal reaction," and all that jazz.

Look, I'm all for debating this topic, but you gotta be willing to listen as much as speak... and, honestly, you're not making a lot of sense in your last few posts. I never said the Earth has a Runaway Greenhouse effect. I said Venus does. And Venus's state of climatic homeostasis certainly has a lot to do with a "greenhouse effect," as the entire planet is experiencing a "Runaway Greenhouse effect" caused by it's high CO2 levels.

Most scientists would agree that Venus is very similar to what the Earth may have appeared like millions of years ago... there are many several similarities between the two planets - and what better model do we have in understanding how different quantities of different elements in an atmosphere may have on us than by looking at another planet in our on Solar System - as things are made of up many of the same elements that we have here on Earth?

You used Mars, yourself, as a model of what's going on here.

"cannot under any circumstances be compared" you say?

I'm thinking you're starting to get outside the bounds of what you may actually be familiar with, but have decided that not knowing shouldn't stop you from continuing to talk.

Planetary science is a hobby-subject of mine. And you're not making very much sense at this stage of our argument, and I'm beginning to realize I have better ways to spend my time.
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