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Old 07-12-2007, 02:38 PM  
KimJI
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There's, literally, an entire planet of evidence: Venus. Look up "run-away greenhouse effect."



Hurricanes are produced by low pressure areas (warmer = less lower pressure, if you missed that point in Physics 101) that are fed by the water vapor over the ocean that they evaporate. In simple speak, while warm pockets often create storms, if a "pocket" gets warm enough, it creates a hurricane. While I reckon that's far from proving anything, sounds like "global warming" could cause hurricanes to me, as warmth and our world's oceans put together are what creates hurricanes.



That's incorrect to say as fact. For the Fall semester, I wrote a research paper that analyzed the evidence in several peer-reviewed sources which discussed the loss of sea ice in the Northern part of the globe as it pertained to the habitat of the Polar Bear - a topic central to my paper... and after researching the subject from about 20 different sources written throughout the last 30 years, I can assure you that the science suggests that we're losing sea ice every year, and a lot more rapidly than most natural models would suggest. While it can, of course, be argued that it's no faster than would happen naturally, I think it's profoundly ignorant to present that opinion as a "fact" when the majority of evidence to be found suggests otherwise.



No one can say that with any certainty, and I'd, personally, consider anyone that does someone who either has an agenda aside from raw science, or a feeble mind that lets others - who have the aforementioned agenda - do their thinking for them.



I believe I just at least brought each point into question without trying very hard at all. If you'd really like to educate yourself, try leaving the internet for a day, and spending some time in an actual library - the bigger the better - and read up on the subject. Doing so gives you a much more rounded view on any topic.



Is it? In the same paper above I also discussed how man-made contaminates have been recently discovered in reproductive-affecting quantities in the liver of polar bears... thousands of miles away from where they're produced. If our contamination of the Planet Earth can affect an environment so far away, is it so hard to believe that it might be having an impact on the amount of radiation that passes through our atmosphere, as well?



I just took my time and responded to each of your points, and I don't believe I earned a single cent from doing so.

Sometimes it's not about the money.

Sometimes it's about taking responsibility... even if you're not 100% certain it's your fault.

Thanks for taking the time to write that reply.

You should have checked the Danish Meteorology study made about the same facts. They are also quoted in the book by Lomborg.

I dont use the internet as the only facts. Most of the internet is still "headlines" the facts are written in books and I do recommend you read Bjorn Lomborgs book or download some of his studies made public in PDF at http://www.lomborg.com/

Regarding the reproductive abilities of the polarbears. I believe facts have proven that pollution and stress from humans moving in on their turf, is the major reason. The same can be seen in any other bear-sort
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