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Originally Posted by Libertine
First, I am not talking about each case. I am specifically talking about cases like the one described in the article, which consist of cruelty for cruelty's sake.
Second, while I do believe that behaviour is in large part an effect of the state of society, I do not believe that this somehow implies that society or the individuals it is composed of "deserve" anything, since that would imply the existence of some higher authority determining what exactly one "deserves" for specific actions. Whether or not they were born criminals is not important, what is important is what they are now: monsters. I agree with you though that wiping such problems under the carpet would not suffice - much better to bury them under 6 feet of solid earth.
Just out of curiosity... what exactly do you believe the "core problem" you mentioned is?
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Hear ya! For kids committing cruel acts, just my
, but can't see that falling into a death penalty situation. Tho agree there is a tendency to extract revenge even if their asses get kicked till they bleed *lol*
If you take examples of... probably more laid back and less "intense" societies, - it is very rare to have children behaving like that. (But agree - it can and does happen).
UK had an extreme case where an infant was stolen from it's mother and a couple of young boys around eight then totured that baby and left him on a rail track to be mangled. It's a totally unexplainable crime and both boys were held in care for years - and subsequently had legal reviews (by a judge experienced with kids) who eventually took the recommendations from professionals that they be released when in their mid/late teens. They were released and now live in other countries - specific locations unknown.
Other examples are where the death penalty used to apply to kids in the US - a few murdered their parents. Just thinking of three between 9 and 13 - they were all convicted and eventually executed when of legal age. The irony was they were all severely abused by at least one parent and sometimes two (assortments of physical and sexual abuse) and they just blew - one threw gas over his parents in bed and threw a match.
Hard to pin down the "core problem" - that may differ with each person, but generally abuse of kids can cause them to become involved in further abuse of others. Kids learn from their parents and others - there can be a range of external factors which may also play a role. A quick check of a sample 100 people in custody for serious physical offenses will show a high percentage who were the victims of some form of abuse in earlier life. It's a vicious circle and these people often think they have the "right" to do to others what was done to them.