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Originally Posted by baddog
The Fillmore and Avalon were not on Haight or Ashbury, so not really relevant. They were not even close. Try the other side of the park. Several miles away. I don't know what you think was being sold on Haight-Ashbury, but the most expensive item was probably a hit of $5 acid.
If you think Haight-Ashbury made San Francisco, you have it backwards. The liberal attitude of San Francisco allowed Haight-Ashbury to exist.
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I had to laugh at this. I think you are misunderstanding me. First, I have no interest in arguing about Haight-Ashbury. If you think I think that SF is defined or put on the map because of the hippies then you are grossly underestimating my understanding of things. I could care less about the area, my point is that the are was affected by numbers, that's it. Obviously, having lived there you know more about it than I do, I'm not debating that...it served merely as an example.
By the way though, one of the main reasons that those two venues thrived was because of the emergence of psychedelic rock music. They are tied to the Haight-Ashbury area even though they do not exist in it. Much like the Buffalo Bills are still a part of Buffalo even though the stadium is not downtown.
Anyways, lets get back to the main debate...and forget about SF, hippies, acid, and psychedelic rock for a minute.