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Originally Posted by GreyWolf
I don't really give a toss what it's called - that's just semantics. I also don't give a shit what the US Bill of Rights says - that never was a guide to healthcare.
Who said anything about government "pushing morality on it's citizens"?? Not me. Don't tell me how to think next because I am "in this business" - it matters little what I think - the issue of healthcare has already been decided upon by almost all other western nations, - not by you or me.
Mmmm.. to be honest I also don't give a shit about how "Americans like to buck the trend" - that's not my problem. It is apparently yours. I don't care what the US does - it's not my business unless it gets in my face. The only issue which did affect me was having to pay for my US friends medical bills because the system failed miserably.
The core issue has nothing to do with the US Bill of Rights or "bucking trends" or "opinions". It relates entirely to providing accessible healthcare - you either have this or not.
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WOW you obviously cant grasp the simple concept of fundamental rights even though you like to toss the term around. Learn the definition of a word before you misuse it again.
If you don't give a shit about The Bill of Rights then you don't give a shit about fundamental rights since you can not have one without the other. Here I'll simplify it for you since that seems to be the only way you can understand.
A fundamental right is a right that has its origin in a country's constitution or that is necessarily implied from the terms of that constitution. These fundamental rights usually encompass those rights considered natural human rights.
Morality refers to the concept of human action which pertains to matters of right and wrong?also referred to as "good and evil"?used within three contexts: individual conscience; systems of principles and judgments?sometimes called moral values?shared within a cultural, religious, secular or philosophical community; and codes of behavior or conduct morality.
So as I'm saying for the third time and and maybe you might get it, a person has no right to health care but people feel moral obliged to offer it. Hence government dictating socialized medicine is not exercising rights its dictating morality.
Now I'm for people having access to affordable health care from a moral standpoint, I've had insurance all of my life and never had a single problem so its easy for me to say fuck them all but I would probably have a hard time sleeping at night.
So in essence , you have as much a right to health care as you do a drivers license.