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RawAlex · 06-22-2007, 08:26 AM

jennycards, I looked at this stuff closely when fusker was around, did the math, and the end number for the programs was "BIG LOSS OF MONEY". Smart programs know exactly how much bandwidth costs are involved with every gallery visit. They know what sells and what doesn't. They work their galleries to get the most clicks forward possible, no matter what.

They know on average, example, that each visitor clicks 4.2 thumbs. Not 16. Not 20... 4.2 (or whatever the number is). Your site assures them 100% clicks of all thumbs, essentially because you download every image every time. Plus you create great demands on the server by asking for say 16 x 100k images to be moved every time you load a page - plus 16 seperate connections, 16 seperate fetches, etc. I suspect the programs that have agreed are either (a) not truly aware of what you are doing or (b) have not truly thought through the implications for their network and for other users of their free hosted gallery systems.

Let's say your site gets 10,000 hits an hour, and the average surfer visits 10 pages. 10,000 x 10 x 16 x 100k = 160g an hour of someone else's bandwidth. A listing in position 1 would likely get about 10% of that or a constant draw of 16gig an hour.

Now, I know bandwith is cheap, but that is still a pretty huge bill to be stuffing off to other people.

There is also no indication that your software couldn't be used to index unsuspecting people. The nature of hotlinked images is that they can totally wipe out a server in a single shot, given enough traffic. Imagine someone paid good dollars to get a decent hun listing, then someone adds it onto fusker2 at the same time... server drops like a rock, and the guy doesn't make any money (because after all, it will be YOUR affiliate codes on your pages, not his). He pays a huge bandwidth bill, likely loses many surfers from the hun who won't wait for the gallery to load (too slow) and you have made off like a bandit with free money.

nice.

If the model didn't involve hotlinking, I would say good luck with it. A model that involves hotlinking is just wrong - and any program permitting this is creating an unfair environment for their other affiliates.

06-22-2007, 08:26 AM
RawAlex So Fucking Banned Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: In a house. Posts: 9,465	jennycards, I looked at this stuff closely when fusker was around, did the math, and the end number for the programs was "BIG LOSS OF MONEY". Smart programs know exactly how much bandwidth costs are involved with every gallery visit. They know what sells and what doesn't. They work their galleries to get the most clicks forward possible, no matter what. They know on average, example, that each visitor clicks 4.2 thumbs. Not 16. Not 20... 4.2 (or whatever the number is). Your site assures them 100% clicks of all thumbs, essentially because you download every image every time. Plus you create great demands on the server by asking for say 16 x 100k images to be moved every time you load a page - plus 16 seperate connections, 16 seperate fetches, etc. I suspect the programs that have agreed are either (a) not truly aware of what you are doing or (b) have not truly thought through the implications for their network and for other users of their free hosted gallery systems. Let's say your site gets 10,000 hits an hour, and the average surfer visits 10 pages. 10,000 x 10 x 16 x 100k = 160g an hour of someone else's bandwidth. A listing in position 1 would likely get about 10% of that or a constant draw of 16gig an hour. Now, I know bandwith is cheap, but that is still a pretty huge bill to be stuffing off to other people. There is also no indication that your software couldn't be used to index unsuspecting people. The nature of hotlinked images is that they can totally wipe out a server in a single shot, given enough traffic. Imagine someone paid good dollars to get a decent hun listing, then someone adds it onto fusker2 at the same time... server drops like a rock, and the guy doesn't make any money (because after all, it will be YOUR affiliate codes on your pages, not his). He pays a huge bandwidth bill, likely loses many surfers from the hun who won't wait for the gallery to load (too slow) and you have made off like a bandit with free money. nice. If the model didn't involve hotlinking, I would say good luck with it. A model that involves hotlinking is just wrong - and any program permitting this is creating an unfair environment for their other affiliates.