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Originally Posted by webmasterchecks
rawalex, alexa stats for zango are high, but still only .1% or less of internet users, per their criteria
http://www.alexa.com/data/details/tr...url=zango.com/
what do the processors have to do with it? may as well blame the hosting companies or microsoft. you are talking about software on the endusers computer that can do anything its commanded to do.
the only thing that i can think of that can really help is making sure that consumers utilize and have access to good remover software/services, and i have thought about this for some time.
if you have a better idea, lets hear it |
For Zango and Alexa: That number is based only on people with the alexa toolbar installed - many spyware packages purposely REMOVE other toolbars or disable them.
Since you are using Alexa, consider this:
http://www.alexa.com/data/details/tr...url=thehun.net
That is Zango versus The Hun - A million plus visits per day? Zango is fucking huge - and they are only one of probably 10 top tier toolbars and then thousands of lower end pure spyware products. The scale is beyond comprehension, and sticking your head in the sand and ignoring it won't make it go away.
As for the processors, there is two very different things at play: First off, I would be very interested to see if they track browser settings to spot things like Zango or coolwebproduct / webfun / smilies (yes, those are all toolbar installers!). I would be very interested to see if they are looking closely at conversions and checking for things like high percentage of toolbar installs, high percentage of "no refering URL" and stuff like that. I would be very interested to see if the guys holding the bank for most of the programs are actually doing something to protect programs and affiliates from this problem.
On a completely different tack, I would also love to see a "processing index" - a number (say 1 to 100) each day that represents the volumes of things like actual sales, actual rebills, actual attempted sales, failures, and things like that as a global overall for the industry. Even a program with access to their own numbers has no way to know if they are part of an induistry trend (say failures are up, sales are down) or if it is something of thier own doing. I would thnk that many programs and affiliates have tuned their stuff aware from the best settings because of something outside of their control.
Basically, getting an idea of the health of the most important part of the business (relative sales levels) would help everyone to get on the good track. I don't want to know exactly how many sales are going on, but it an average day is a "50", and the rating for today is 25, then I know that sales are down overall and I won't worry about my own stuff as much. If it is a 75 or 80 and my sales suck for days at a time, then I know that perhaps I need to change what I am selling or my methods...
I guess I am hoping to get a feeling that the programs and the processors are on top of the situation and looking out for their business partners (affiliates) and making sure that we aren't getting screwed over. I am not comfortable that this is the situation today.