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Originally Posted by Darkland
Hardly. I am a big geek, I have probably studied more physics, quantum physics, string theory, space and time paradox theory than the average person. Cant help it, its in my family genes. At any rate, it is YOU who is close minded to the possibility of anything other than, they stopped it, so now no one has a set future. Even if we weren't talking about this show it is this simple:
We will take Hurrican Katrina for example, hell why not Sept. 11 for that matter. Those events were tragic and DID have a wide spread ripple effect across the country, even the world.
Now lets say, I am Joe Schmoe, living in Anytown, USA. Using whatever it is life dealt me in the way of my perception of my own reality around me, whether I am a HS dropout, abused as a child, poor or wealthy, etc. anything that makes me what I am today. All these factors ultimately determine what I will become. Say I like the aspects of becoming a lawyer or a serial killer or a doctor, doesnt matter what it is. I will become that thing regardless of small scale events around me, especially in this instant, whether those events happened or not. Could they affect my future choices, sure they can, but only insofar as whatever effects they may or may not have will be purely based on my original disposition.
So if I was leaning towards Law Enforcement or a Military career, Sept. 11 might bring me quicker to that goal, but even without that event happening it can be pretty much guaranteed I STILL would have become one of these two things. You can not have a future that isnt built on the past and present. Would you be a 100% different person just because a tragic event happened or didn't happen? Of course not, you would simply be the exact same person, and cataclysmic event not withstanding you will continue to be the same person, and continue to go on and do the things you are predisposed to.
If the writers choose to completely wipe the slate clean as far a future outcomes are concerned that is up to them, but in the eyes of logic I believe it would be a mistake to do so.
Every choice we make is the only choice we CAN make because all our choices are set in stone by our own personal life events and experiences. There is no middle ground and even spur of the moment choices are indicitive of the very being of what and who we are.
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BTW I didn't say you were closed minded.. I said your thoughts were close.... different meaning.. you may have misread.
God I love a good debate.. thank you for being willing.
Me???? Closed minded???? well sometimes.. but not for this.
Ok.. lets use your scenario to prove my point. Law enforcement. You want it.. it's you... it makes you tick. You won't be complete without it.... so in jr high and high school.. these are your plans. nothing can stop you right? Are you telling me, that perhaps when you are 16, you get pulled over.. a cop treats you like shit.... pisses you off so bad that you never want anything to do with it again.. that doesn't affect you?
OK.. now let me change time. I stop the cop from affecting you. I wait until you are in college. I fix your grades in college so instead of an A you get a D in forensics. Devastates you. You drop it altogether. NO?? not enough yet?
Even worse.... You are married... driving home one night. I am a cop... driving drunk, crash into you.. kill your wife (god forbid... just an example here)... when it comes to trial.. not only do I not get punished, i get an insurance settlement as well (cops know people right?)... you say fuck the world, to hell with police work.. I wanna be a lawyer!!!
Life is fluid. A choice is not set in stone for that moment. We can choose path A or path B... or C,D E etc.. if they are available... and life goes on. We are all affected by what everyone else does also. Yes I am who I am not only because of my choices, but because of thousands of other people and what they do as well. My life is affected because the terrorists hit buildings in New York even though I live in Phoenix. They don't like America because of the choices you and I and millions of other westerners make. The debate could go on.. but yes, we all do affect each other.. and yes, our choices are open.. not fixed. If my choices were fixed and I had no other options.. it would be a very boring life indeed.