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Originally Posted by Sarah_MaxCash
I happen to think it is a nice country and a lot of people that complain have no solutions of their own to offer other than bitch. I don't think there is a 'best country' but essentially it is code for saying 'favourite country' and I would bloody well (man I have been here a while) hope that the prime minister would think this is his favourite country.
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OK then

Seriously - it's not a bad country and agree, there is no "best country" on the planet.
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Originally Posted by Sarah_MaxCash
I am not a huge Blair fan but it is rubbish - and very Sun-ish - to say that nothing at all good has happened on his watch. The people getting minimum wage for the first time, for example, might be forced to admit at least one thing is better than it was in the past.
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I don't actually mind the guy Sarah, he's a fairly astute person and little doubt has done some good somewhere. It would appear that the downfall of "leaders" seem to stem from... call it arrogance. Blair ended up traveling that path and the end result was kinda inevitable. (Thatcher did the same thing - and chances are Bush will follow that route as well)
Somehow got a feeling Tony will do better out of office and may do some good stuff along the way.
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Originally Posted by Sarah_MaxCash
Okay, Iraq..but again most people that bitch about that have no solutions of their own but simply quote red top headlines rather than coming up with how they would have done things differently in the climate of the time.
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Iraq was prob Blair's major failing and the start of his problems. He already knew exactly what he was supposed to do - that was more than clear in the public objection to involvement in Bush's "war". The "solution" was stay the hell away from Iraq and Bush - but he wanted to play that game and it's his legacy. In this respect - it's only my "opinion", but he very seriously failed the people who elected him.
It's prob the case if he was not "contaminated" with Iraq, he would have stood a chance at completing his term of office in a more gracious fashion and without cabinet revolts and having a better legacy.
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Originally Posted by Sarah_MaxCash
So, when he wants to give a goodbye speech..just let him.
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OK then - we better let the old fart show a tear and ooze his patriotism

As long as he does not take too long over it *lol*
You gotta excuse Grumpy

He's never happy with any politician - irrespective of political persuasion. But, in the middle of the swamp, there are good people who have ability - it's just a matter of letting them surface, but that rarely happens. By it's nature, govt is always "at it" - either deceiving, conspiring with agenda's or, if all else fails, covering their asses and engaging in damage limitation exercises. (Eg they lied/conspired about the basis of a war. Of course they knew the truth - they are not totally stupid, but there was a "need". If it's not about a war, it would be some other shit they were up to.) Bottom line - as a group, they can't be trusted with 5 cents.
BUT... as said previously - there are plenty good and honorable men and women in that swamp - and hat off to em
PS Hehe.. just noticed your spelling and dialog (dialogue) Sarah. Never knew "American immigrants" used the "favourite" version of spelling? I'm busy learning how to misspell in the hope US folks have a clue what the hell I'm saying. And what's this "bloody well hope" verbal?? Damn - that Britty stuff is sure rubbing off
