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Originally Posted by Mr. Mojo Risin
I agree that Kobe is the greatest player or equivalent to Jordan. Kobe was a little bit better score, Jordan was a little bit better defender. Jordan has reached God status through all the marketing, especially during the sneaker era. Be like Mike and all that, plus Jordan's charisma with the media has helped him reach God status. Also, 6 championships, 10 scoring titles, etc. Jordan had a better team though. Sure, Kobe had Shaq for awhile and won 3 titles, but Jordan had a better team for longer. When Jordan didn't have such a great team, he was much like Kobe is today, a great scorer on a terrible team, winning all sorts of scoring titles, thouch Kobe has eclipsed Jordan in other scoring records. Kobe can score from anywhere and has more and better moves. Jordan didn't have a consistently great 3 point shot. Jordan was better defensively though. In conclusion, Jordan had a better team longer and has been over-hyped and that's what has lead to people thinking he is the greatest, and he maybe the greatest. People that weren't around to watch Jordan play and now don't watch Kobe play often, please excuse yourself from this argument. Don't automatically conclude Jordan is the best, because of what others say and all the buzz around him and all the hate around Kobe. It is impossible to say who is better. They are about equivalent.
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I admire your passion as a Laker fan, but you gotta take off the Kobe blinders. Try for once to disassociate yourself from the Lakers and look at things objectively. Saying Kobe is a better scorer than Jordan and equivalent is completely laughable at this point in his career. Kobe has a career 24 pt scoring average vs Jordan's 30 pt average. He's got 19k total pts vs Jordan's 32k. Keep in mind that Kobe got a head start by coming out after high school and Jordan also lost time playing baseball. Kobe needs another 5-6 years at a 30pt average per year just to catch Jordan in total points.
The great thing about basketball is that we have the abililty to measure 99% of a players contribution on the court through stats. Jordan leads Kobe in every statistical career average. Jordan has higher career rebound, assist, steal and block averages and fewer turnovers/game. Jordan has a career 50% shooting average while Kobe is at 45% for his career. That single stat alone tells anyone who knows the game who the better scorer is.
At this point, on paper its really not that close and certainly not a fair comparison until Kobe has finished his career. I am by no means a Jordan jocker and agree with you partly in that his brand marketing has kept his name at legendary status. If Kobe can put in another 5-6 solid years you might be able to make the statements you made today. I'm so tired of people trying to compare those in the middle of their careers to those who are out of the game, just wait.