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Originally Posted by AmateurFlix
The stats I was referring to, and what I thought our discussion had turned to specifically, was the # of domestic violence incidents in which a firearm was involved compared to those without one. No way can those involving firearms possibly be comparable to those without - my point being that in a situation such as that (which you gave as an example) any weapon at hand will be utilized, the presence of a firearm isn't going to make it any more or less likely to occur.
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Sorry... misunderstood! Na.. don't know about the actual stats re "domestics" - this was a few decades ago and prob changed now.
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Originally Posted by AmateurFlix
As far as your point about police being "outgunned" by criminals with more sophisticated weapons - this is mostly a misconception on the part of people unfamiliar with firearms. There is the odd incident with a criminal obtaining a fully automatic machine gun, however it is exceedingly rare that police are faced with one; even then, returning a spray of fire on full-auto is not usually the best approach. Those weapons are almost impossible to obtain legally here without getting special permits and paying well into the 5 figure range, and the gov't keeps close tabs on their sales - so legal availability isn't an issue, as they are already effectively banned.
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Not sure agencies dealing with serious crime would agree
It's also, and still amazed with some of this, - there is a lot going on which never gets reported in the media - far more! Even where there are folks walking around and actually witness "incidents".
Can't and would never say stuff here, but there is one very serious "war" going on and know folks involved - they are only equipped with standard weapons (tho may have more than one) - but they have faced sophisticated weapons in the hands of crooks. If ya can, you adopt the standard LE procedure and run like hell or do whatever to cover your ass - then come back to fight another day. Dunno.. but don't sound like they actually want more sophisticated weapons - they work with what they got and take time to "evaluate" and then do a "surprise attack" (often with others and more heavy weapons - or let others take over if there are undercover problems).
There don't seem to be a great shortage of good weapons in the hands of "serious crooks" AF - tho may be because there are unlimited finances and little is going to stop that.