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Originally Posted by Adult Lounge - Brad
Our Histories are irrelevant to this debate. By getting more "law abiding" citizens to carry guns you are increasing the demand for guns and therefore the manufacturers are going to need to produce more guns. As the desire for legal guns increases, so will the amout of guns that make their way to the blackmarket, therefore increasing the need for guns. This is a relationship that will only result in more deaths.
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Therein lies your problem. You fail to grasp that the right to bear arms is such an integral part of the United States, it's the 2nd Amendment. Your country did not fight for it's independence, therefore it's not held as highly.
I've said it earlier, Pandora's box has been opened, firearms is big business, across the world. You will never stop that, so stop living in that pipe dream that it can be done. I find it hilarious (Not in a good way) you think the desire for guns will drop for criminals because legal, law abiding citizens can't have any. It's so out there, it's not even on the map anymore.
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I think that it is quite easy to make it harder to get a hand gun on the black market. If they stop making them all together, no new hand guns will be available on the blackmarket ones. Obviously stolen guns will always be there, but the available number of hand guns will decrease over time if they simply are not available for purchase any more.
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More living in fantasyland.
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I'm sure it easy to get drugs in Toronto as it is any city. Hell, once I was in London at King's Cross and a guy casually walked up to me and said, "hey man, do you know where I can get two hits of LSD for 20 pounds"? Drugs will always be around so long as there is a market for them and people want them enough to ask total strangers if they have them. But drugs are different than guns because drugs are illegal to manufacture, so you are missing the point here. Besides, Canada does not have a "war on drugs"
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In Canada, Drugs are illegal, right? Kinda like how you want to make guns illegal for anyone to get. Didn't work for drugs, what makes you think it will for guns?
Guns will always be around as long as there will be a market for it. Anytime one human being wants to force their will on another human being, you'll find guns.
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Guns are legally manufactured and taxed, etc. I think you will find that if hand guns were illegal (and the legal manufacturers no longer produced them) there will be much less gun violence over the period of 10-20 years. Obviously this is a hypothesis and open to debate.
However, more hand guns is always going to equal more deaths and gun violence.
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This thinking did really well during the Prohibition Years in the United States. No manufacture of alcohol in the USA, they just got it in from Canada.
Alcohol, guns, what difference does it make? If someone wants it, they'll get it.
Your whole argument is based on stop manufacturing guns. That's never going to happen, so the whole argument is one big mental masturbation.