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Originally Posted by Zango Cash Email
The campaign was run by AdultFriendFinder Media. Will76 witnessed his cookie being overwritten by a cookie placed by the ad.........
There is no reason to believe that AdultFriendFinder had malicious intent; it has a long history of being proactive and protecting the interests of its affiliates. In fact, when the potential conflict was brought to the attention of AdultFriendFinder and Zango (at about the same time), AdultFriendFinder stopped the campaigns in question and reconfigured them to avoid the potential of having a cookie overwritten or a home page targeted. In short, much ado about very little.
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Originally Posted by LegendaryLars
AdultFriendFinder from time to time as a small part of its advertising budget places ad buys with companies which some people might call ?adware"......
One of the motivating factors in AdultFriendFinder placing such adware ads is to effectively compete in the online dating marketplace - namely if AdultFriendFinder does not place such ads our competitors will make deals with the adware companies to place such ads to our detriment........
This scenario certainly makes us uncomfortable and creates a catch-22 for us ? if we stop buying the contextual adware ads our competitors? sites will pop up and we may lose sales and if we keep buying adware ads we may find from time to time our ads will pop up near our affiliate?s ads for our sites.
....this notion of the adware ad ?collisions? that has recently been raised does make us feel somewhat uncomfortable ? in other words we find ourselves sympathetic with those who have not been happy with this bizarre result.
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SexSearch made us do it:
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Originally Posted by LegendaryLars
I would not say support I would more say forced into read this (sex search targeting AFF using zango)
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Zango is the same as a pop up:
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Originally Posted by LegendaryLars
a timed pop up has the same effect as adware pops. but was common practice among most if not all large paysite companies for years. where was will then ?
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When asked " What are you doing with Zango?":
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Originally Posted by LegendaryLars
Buying pop up ads.
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Originally Posted by LegendaryLars
I disagree just like any pop up the surfer can choose to ignore the pop up and continue on surfing where he was at. And if the surfer really does not want any more pop ups they simply uninstall the adware and the pops ups are gone.
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Originally Posted by LegendaryLars
We do not pop the same site over the same site, and we use URL Tracking not cookies to determine who gets the sale. Affialites are getting proper credit for all sales. And I might add are quite happy with the huge checks we send out, and will be even happier this month when we up the pay even more.
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Note: they would pop up cams.com over aff.com and vice versa, and with their affiliate code not yours.
Lars down playing zango, that it is a small amount of traffic, no big deal:
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Originally Posted by LegendaryLars
no we are talking about less than 1/2 of 1 % and then the user can close the pop up if they dont like and continue surfing what they were doing.
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More Sex Search made us do it, and we are doing it to protect from our affiliates, ie. we steal from them and then give it back to them in "higher payouts":
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Originally Posted by LegendaryLars
as was shown if we do not pop cams then sexsearch buys the pop. If sexsearch buys the pop then our affilaites lose becuase we lose money. If we make money off of a cams pop then that money is filtered back into the payouts in the form of bonuses and higher percent and affilaites in the end make more money. If we let sexsearch buy the popup then we would have to reduce payouts as we would be less competative, and our affilaites would make less money. So do our affilaites want us to buy the pops or do tehy want sexsearch or 10 others buy the pop ? I say affilaites would rather us buy it.
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Funny thing to note here. Lars stopped buying Zango traffic, but yet I think they are still raising payouts or at least they have stayed the same.... more lies from Lars.
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Originally Posted by LegendaryLars
Oh and we are talking about one half of 1% of traffic. As long as I raise payouts more than one half of 1 % then the affialite is making more money overall. Oh and look I raise payouts all the time.
So the end result is Our affilaites are making more money than anyone else and you cant stand it.
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More lies that using zango is not stealing traffic/sales from anyone else.
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Originally Posted by LegendaryLars
we dont steal anything from anyone, but we do pay more than anyone else for traffic and so thats why the traffic all comes to us ! You can hate all you want but money talks and hate walks.
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Calling people sheep:
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Originally Posted by LegendaryLars
We are not stealing anything from anyone. I think you have been turned into a sheep.
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Originally Posted by LegendaryLars
The level of sheep and heard mentality on this board is AMAZING!
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When asked how long AFF has been using Zango:
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Originally Posted by LegendaryLars
for years and we are aliing about 1/2 of 1% so a drastic decline in conversions or signups has nothign to do with adware.
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When asked if anyone had questioned him person about zango:
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Originally Posted by LegendaryLars
Yeah like 3-4 people asked me about it, once I explained the issues they were all like oh ok I get it now. Mostly there has been a lot of bullshit being slung around here.
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Originally Posted by LegendaryLars
The surfer has downloaded and accepted to get ads for use of software, you and I might think why would someone do that, I would not do that. Well I would not buy porn on the internet but I sure am glad somebody does.
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Zango, Inc. Settles FTC Charges - Will Give Up $3 Million in Ill-Gotten Gains for Unfair and Deceptive Adware Downloads:
http://www.ftc.gov/opa/2006/11/zango.htm
Lars saying my posts about him/AFF using Zango was " personal " and self serving:
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Originally Posted by LegendaryLars
Will is pimping up his board presence, so he can be a bigshot, plain and simple his attacks on me and my company have gone above and beyond anything reasonable, and that was pointed out to me by a lot of people at teh trade show.
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My bullshit comments from Lars trying to discredit me:
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Originally Posted by LegendaryLars
I am beginning to think that will does not make the kind of , money he spouts off about. I think he is full of it as part of his self promotions, he pumped himself up big and that as cams.com continues to whip the shit outta ifriends. He just can not take it that we are kicking ifriends ass and so he is pissed off.
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Originally Posted by LegendaryLars
I never called affiliates sheep I said that people who just jump onto whatever is said on gfy withought finding out facts is a sheep, if people do their homework install zango and then find that its still a problem for them then I am happy to listen to them..
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And that was the last day Lars posted for 4 months.... until:
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Originally Posted by LegendaryLars
With all the promotion of Zango over the last few months so many new affiliates and ad buyers have signed on to promote and buy ads from Zango, they have driven the price of traffic up so much that it is no longer profitable for us to continue buying ads from Zango.
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So what happens to your traffic now that Sex search will buy it all up? You claimed you were forced to buy it so they wouldn't get it. But now you say that you are stoping because it is not profitable.
Sometimes words are not needed when you can quote the source, hard to argue with what you said yourself Lars.