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				I just got finished reading "The Game" too and I've met Mystery (presumably the guy you named yourself after). "Mystery" is a sad little man who considers himself and is considered in some circles to be "the world's greatest pickup artist". He was chasing a friend and fuck buddy of mine at the time. I'll use some of the jargon from the "PUAs" here. 
			
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 I'm not related to him. Actually, my screen name has a long history, too long to go into here.
Note: Seduction tools are just that... tools.
They every individual has a different purpose and agenda.
I knife in the hands of a skilled surgeon saving your life is a good thing.
In the hands of a psychotic is another thing.
Knives are not good or bad, only the intentions of the person yielding of the knife.
"Guns don't kill people.  Bullets don't kill people.
HOLES kill people, therefore, we should outlaw holes."
 
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				Mystery tried to AMOG me unsuccessfully. He found himself alone in Vegas (last I saw him, trying to "sarge" a 40 year old cocktail waitress), yet again, after getting brushed aside by a girl who'd had us both and chose me over him not once, but several times and completely ignored his childish fits over it. No amounts of "peacocking", "punishments" or any of the other "techniques" he employed changed that in the three days that he tried to win. His facade does not make up for what he lacks as a person. 
			
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 Totally agreed. 
Like I said, I'm not affiliated with him in any way.
If a woman is captivated with you, it's RUDE to interfere with that.
I totally agree with you.
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				The "game" and all it's trappings, including Ross Jeffries' NLP tie-ins and all the other cute little techniques are nothing but memorized tricks for guys who aren't "naturals". By that, I'm referring to what somebody said above "you either got it or you don't." Well, this "game" is for those who don't. If you don't have "it"...go for it, bud. Learn the tricks, play the game and fuck all the bubbleheads you can get to hold still and not scream rape. Try not to feel bad about the fact that you're lying to every woman you play this "game" with. Try to ignore the reality that no intelligent female will ever develop real feelings for the you, only the facade you're putting up to get a "number close", "kiss close" or "fuck close" and hopefully, you're a gypsy by nature because women around the world are getting smart to this bullshit and PUAs everywhere are screaming about getting shut down first words out of their mouths because the girls have heard it over and over and over again. 
			
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 Well, I understand that you believe that this this some kind of "high-tech trickery", and it's only for "Bubleheads".
It's not like there are MILLIONS of intelligent women that WANT men to create curiosity, intrigue, and fascination...
to make them feel wonderful in your presence...
But, if you COULD  understand how to talk to women, in that deeper place in their mind, where attraction and arousal exists...
What would it be like if women responded to you by fantasizing about you and dreaming about you...?
I have a friend, and she says this about Ross Jeffries: "Finally, someone is teaching men to talk to women.  Sometimes, I'll be in a night club, and I'll tap a man on the shoulders, to ask him to dance, and he freezes up like a deer in headlights. Ross is teaching men important social skills, about controlling their own state, NOTICING details, listening, and holding an intelligent conversation."
This isn't about Pick up lines. (Although, it is about knowing how to approach a woman, and knowing what to say."
I practice karate.
I was waiting for the class to open, and 2 sophomore coeds walked by, and set in an empty adjacent classroom.
I walked in, and told them, "My court appointed therapist told me I need to talk to more beautiful women to help overcome my rage disorder. Is this the room for group therapy?"
THey busted up laughing, which broke the ice, then we continued the conversation for 15 minutes.  I didn't even try to get a number... I was just enjoying the company of 2 beautiful flowers in the garden of Venus.
When I went back to karate, to warm up, one of the black belts (A recent divorcee) told me he didn't have the guts to do that.
Black belt in karate.
Fear of approaching women.
It doesn't add up.
There are MILLIONS of men that have those fears.
Engineers. Attorneys.  Accountants.  Intelligent men, who have fear around women.
This is who we are helping with Speed Seduction.biz
These are our customers, and we are our shopping cart is ringing like CRAZY. And affiliates are making money.
And, I feel good, that we are helping men, everywhere, become skilled with  women.  We are shipping product to 6 of the seven continents. (No antarctica orders yet)