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I love that I started an argument between what is realistic and what is not. What really cracks me up is guys getting on here saying how those numbers are unrealistic because the averages today are so much lower. You wanna know why the averages are lower?
Because every free site owner with 20 bucks said, I can make a pay site and they put something up with 20,000 pictures and 15 feeds. Yeah the AVERAGES today suck because you don't have SERIOUS BUSINESS PEOPLE running the vast majority of the sites.
The other problem... you have people trying to keep 1998 retention numbers with a 1998 members area paradigm. You think I sound like an old war veteran? I'm the one trying to tell people to take their members area to 2002 and do dynamic index pages - rotating pages - mining output data to organize feeds by popularity - user discussion forums - run contests... in short GROW WITH THE TIMES.
If you don't have 85% retention of recurring members... then don't cripple yourself by blaming the state of the industry... get your butt in motion and make your site better and you'll get the numbers up there. I have nothing to gain by giving you pie in the sky BS... I have everything to gain by giving my clients realistic expectations so they are pleased with the end result.
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