heres a tip that worked for me by accident. Go to your local home theatre store and select a model that is out of stock that is around 4-500 less than the real model you want. This hapened to me by accident but you can phone ahead and check whats in stock. When they tell you its out of stock tell them you are going to go somewhere else. Of course they will try to prevent you from leaving and which point you tell them you'd get the more expensive model if they matched the price of the out of stock item. Most likely they will
