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Originally Posted by hottoddy
Yep, no doubt that global climate changes occur naturally - who's disputing that? Around 1000AD, there were effing dairy farms on Greenland - dairy farms! A mini-ice age occurred around 1400 which forced the Scandinavian settlers to abandon them. It happened very quickly and this mini-ice age was well documented in Europe. As it is still far too cold today to have dairy farms on Greenland - I'm not exactly crapping my pants.
There were and will continue to be ice ages and global warming despite what we humans do. It's cyclical. No scientist has been able to establish that all of our emissions alone, taken in the most radical light, could contribute any more than +.25 of a degree.
It's happening, but I seriously doubt it's us.
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thats the problem. these discussions, the rhetoric and the arguments are almost never kept within the proper context of the fact that climate change occurs naturally and the actual discussion is what part of the current climate change is natural, what part is the result of mankinds contribution.
there is this intimidating term used to describe the issue called "global warming" which within the context of the discussion implies that the climate should remain constant or that no warming should be occuring naturally.
the simple fact is that there is no widespread agreement on whats happening, why, what degree of change is natural, what isn't etc.... BUT at the end of the day, you only get continued research funding, grants and attention for scaring people. scientific research is just as biased as anyone in their political views and that bias often occurs out of financial necessity.
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