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Used both recurring and persignup with AVS and personally, I prefer persignup. But as you say, it's all in the quality of the paysite. There are so many fucking lame paysites out there.

Using recurring sponsors with AVS commonplace but I disagree with the whole thing. They have credit cards/checking accounts, but this isn't '97 and thus there is such a huge wealth of sites to buy from. Blacks on Blondes... Bang Bus... Karups PC... Cum Fiesta... anyone that's into their porn (as AVS members are) is going to want to see more than 1 site. My guestimation is that most AVS members don't just buy their password, buy 1 paysite membership, and then lose interest in porn forever. We're talking about an audience of perverts here. The majority of AVS members know what they're doing and most aren't going to rebill for 3 months to bring a $35 signup equivalent UNLESS we're talking about one extraordinary paysite. AdultBouncer, for example (okay, it's an AVS but you get the idea...), is great value for the member. A horny guy buys an Adult Bouncer membership from an Adult Check site? Fuck, he'll stay for months.

I get the feeling that Holio feeds just don't cut it anymore. Anyone still trying to work the old angle of "200,000 pics" and "30,000 live xxx feeds" in their text links needs to get a fucking grip on their creation skills. But that's another matter.

In other terms, the majority of AVS members know when to cancel -- especially free AVS members... if they didn't already learn to cancel before their membership renews at a higher rate, then they'll certainly learn when the $39.95 shows on their bank statement.

I feel that the only reason to use recurring sponsors with AVS members is to feel more comfortable with the reduced likeliness of shaving, if it's your own paysite, or if there is no half-decent persignup alternative.

There is NOTHING better than counting your own clicks to a sponsor and seeing that you're converting 1:20. Choose the sponsors wisely and that's an honest, guaranteed $35 a pop.

Any newbies out there shouldn't just accept whatever the fuck they read on message boards or webmaster resource sites. Develop your own ideas, please. If everyone is reading the same shit, using the same techniques, same text links, same banners, then where's the competition in that?

Everyone make your own preference. I do use some recurring sponsors but I do prefer an honest persignup approach... feel free to shoot me down in flames if you like, but that's my personal preference considering the past few years.

Search engine traffic is a different matter.