@ the threadstarter
you should have included yourself in the list...i mean this thread is useless...tsk...tsk... 
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"Some guys---a lot of guys--don't believe what they are seeing, especially if it gets in the way of what they want to eat or drink or think or believe. Me, I don't believe in God. But if I saw him, I would...The definition of an asshole is a guy who doesn't believe what he's seeing." Richard Ginelli
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