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Originally Posted by directfiesta
and Khadafi would still be a bad person ( now he is a good one ..).
Sad analysis but quite valid.
So maybe if this administration would open up to talk to Iran ( instead of the cowboy approach), maybe something could come out of it, like for the above examples. 
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no one has EVER said Khadafi was a "good person" or a friend of any western country. he is a known terrorist and known supporter of terrorism who made significant strides after a couple decades of sanctions to reverse his policies, admit to what he did as well as other concesions. what was a better solution? overthrow him?
if Iran wanted to talk to ANYONE... they would be talking to the UN and every country that has tried to talk to them rather than telling them to fuck off.
Iran isn't a problem of the US or the Bush administration. The UN and most of the countries weren't condemning their behavior because the world cares about the relationship between two ignorant lunatics. There is a problem in Iran and short of condemning their behavior... no one wants to take action. Just like Rwanda. It was never called what it was (genocide) by the UN because it would have required them to take action. Meanwhile 2 million people died. How many more times does that shit have to repeat itself before the rest of the world starts taking a proactive stance in either bringing people to the table or shutting them down?
The funny thing about this discussion is this... your choices are;
1) bash the USA and ignore the history and facts
2) enjoy a world with an unstable, radical islamic state with Nuclear weapons
3) get in the game and do something about it either through diplomacy or any other means.
Everyone likes "1" because its easy, its fun and it draws attention away from a very difficult issue with no good solutions. its simply popular and the easy way out.
meanwhile... Iran is still on course. Threatening world war 3 and trying to get the bomb. But yeah... blame the US... because ONLY the US can get involved and bring them to the table and talk. No other country on the planet has that power i guess. I mean thats what everyone is basically saying right? The US is the problem, Iran... known supporters of terrorism, ran by radical fundamentalists and determined to wipe Isreal off the map.... can't possibly be accountable for their own behavior. Someone "makes them" do those things.