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Originally Posted by polish_aristocrat
well, but they (Muslims, Iran etc - you name it) say the same about America, some things are just relative
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of course.
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We can safely assume that the Muslims will change and become more "civilized" in future, but it will definitely be a slow process, taking decades or centuries. How many wars do you want to start until then?
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again... that has nothing to do with the reality on the ground...today. its today that is the issue. not "what might be" in 30 years or 100 years.
i am not for war or beating the war drums or anything like that. i was simply pointing out that the problem is real... its there. its been there. there has been massive efforts to engage them politically with them simply telling the world to fuck off.
either someone has to propose a better solution than "ignore them and maybe they will go away", or get them to engage in diplomacy and work towards a solution... or accept whatever happens as the result of innaction or failure to keep things on a better course. hating the USA or making disparaging remarks about the USA, pointing out no WMD's were found or whatever, does not address the reality in Iran and the threat they present.
i think that the general pattern of blaming the USA 100% for anything and everything is just a short sighted and easy answer and a distraction from the complicated truths that exist that have no easy answers.