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Old 01-04-2007, 12:04 PM  
Pleasurepays
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Originally Posted by StuartD View Post
And you wrongly assume the terrorists attacked the US just for fun.... that the US didn't provoke it somehow.

You guys seem to think that it doesn't matter what anyone thinks of the US moving in more troops into a conflict it doesn't belong in and that nothing will come of it. And then get all shocked when these guys turn around and fly a plane into a building.

If you seriously think that these actions won't raise tensions and make people hate the US even more than they might already do.... then you're just deluding yourself. Yes, sometimes you have to do something that will make people hate you... but sometimes you can do that without having to push it even further for no good reason. the political process with Iran has failed on every level... due to their own staunch refusal to engage ANY developed country or even discuss their nuclear program.

If you push, people push back. I'd think the war eager bunch of you would realize that.
i dont assume anything. get over yourself. you act as if the world is perfect... with simple problems and easy solutions. hate to break it to you, but the world is a much more complicated place and driven by and shaped into a clusterfuck of the political, economic and security interests of each nation.

its easy to criticise taking action... i submit however, that you are definately less informed and less qualified to determine a proper course of action, than anyone actually making the decisions.

again... the problem is there. just like with N Korea. whats teh world doing about it? uhmm...nothing. meanwhile, their own sabre rattling continues to grow louder and louder and louder as do their threats. thats a fact. its also a fact that the UN and world at large, has a horrible track record of dealing with threats early on before it becomes a major catastrophe.

the whole "you push and they push back" argument is weak. they have been pushing and pushing and pushing and pushing and pushing against the entire world, against the UN, against the IAEA etc. at some point, you have to push back or become the victem.

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