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Old 12-10-2002, 12:51 PM  
goBigtime
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Originally posted by WhatAboutBob?
No, I wasn't passing judgement by any means.

To use them for primary bandwidth is a crap shoot, that's all I'm saying. I have been in the bandwidth business for over five-years now, and anyone who breaks into market at prices that low, has to be skimping somewhere, but then again, that may not be the case.

I have gotten deals as low as $54 a meg (for 200M) in the Midwest from a backbone that is ranked consistently on Boardwatch and Keynote.

Once Cogent gets consistent high mark from third parties, I will look to them as well.

And all I"m saying is back up your statements. You're letting them fly one after another without anything to back it up. Now cogent is a crap shoot because Boardwatch and Keynote doesn't promote them.

My guess is its not very profitable to help drag the industry down by supporting the company that comes in and lowballs everyone -- irregardless of how good they are performing.

If you can get "premium" bandwidth for $54/mbit for 200megs, then you are only paying $24/mbit more & committing to twice as much as you would have to with cogent. I'm also willing to bet that you have cogent to thank for prices that low ($54/mbit) from the "premium" providers.

Anyone who is familiar with cogents business model knows why they can do what they are doing. They are data only (no voice), they have 1 product - bandwidth & their prices are publicly known/avail (they do the down and dirty VPN stuff too I guess) . It comes in a couple flavors of course, but from a billing & administration standpoint it's cake. Now your "premium" providers go nuts trying to sell you all these value added services and confuse you with prices and term commitments and theres sales people in the middle trying to bleed their commission out of you and all that. Blah. I know, I've been shopping it =( If you think about it, you'll understand why cogent has more of a chance to outlast these other guys. Their ship is much more easy to sail. Because of their pricing & business model, they don't need a billion techs - they can do this on a skeleton crew in comparision to the "premium" guys your talking about.

Arguing with me without data to back up your claims is pointless -- I've done my homework. You either haven't or don't want to.
Show me links or tell me how to see that the network is less adequate than the other providers. Hell, tell me what provider will hook up for $54/mbit for 200mbits for that matter :P... even that price is probably too low for you to publicly quote thier name/network. Games.

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heh I just re-read this thread and it does sound like I work for cogent I assure you I don't though. It just fuggin irks me to read all these cogent bashing threads everywhere (not just here, but the one this morning on GFY where someone said "Whatever you do don't go with cogent" set me off I guess).. I don't like the cogent trash talk because I am under the impression from all the homework I have done, that it's false & also because I plan to make a pretty big committment with them. So again, if someone can talk me out of it with comparative stats or something PLEASE DO.

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