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Old 12-03-2006, 05:04 PM  
Pleasurepays
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Originally Posted by BoyAlley View Post

One of Karl Rove's primary agendas leading up to BOTH presidential elections, and this recent mid-term election, was to put a "ban gay marriage" initiative on the ballots of important swing states.

Why?

To bring the base out to the polls.

I don't think it's possible to overstate the extent to which the Republican Party, or Christian Evangelicals, have been attacking homosexuals.

Now, you may be more of a Goldwater Republican, and more power to you if you are, but you need to realize the percentage of the Republican Party these days (and certainly those calling the shots), that follow libertarian stances are VERY small.

Like it or not, the Republican Party has been hijacked by the religious right.

HOPEFULLY, after the midterms, the more libertarian voices of the Republican Party will start to get heard, although I'm not holding my breath.

As for Christian Evangelicals and their major leaders and organizations? I hear them talking about 1 of 2 things: Abortion or Faggots.

Can't remember the last time I heard Christian Evangelical leaders talking about divorce. The bible does a MUCH better job at spelling out what kind of sin that is, compared to the couple of lines it devotes to homosexuality.

Maybe that's because a divorce is a sin that about 60% of them are guilty of.......

i never voted for any republican in my life. ever.

the simple truth is that one side wants to legitimize a behavior and demonize those who oppose it. the other side wants to demonize a behavior and legitimize those who oppose it.

what interests me in these discussion is that this question forces you into a corner. "why people are gay" is the question you can never ask honestly... because the simple truth is that you require one and one answer only "i was born this way". no other answer is acceptable. you have an agenda. thats not "science". science is about discovery and accepting the answers, no matter what they are. science is not about seeking answers you hope to find, while summarily ruling out any and all evidence to the contrary.

you claim to hate the religious right.. but your behavior is no different. you have your beliefs, you are extremely intollerant of any other view point. you are incapable of rationally discussing the idea that you might be wrong. you are incabable of changing your views. you are no different than those you hate.

thats the great irony of your anger and of who you are angry with.

notice that your message is NEVER "i am human too, please accept me for who i am"
your message is always "fuck you motherfuckers, you are nothing but a bunch of bigoted assholes"

... then you get annoyed when no one is listening.
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