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Old 12-04-2002, 09:34 AM  
Ray@TastyDollars
 
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My ICQ chat with ***** about shaving. The names have been changed to protect....

My ICQ chat with ***** about shaving. The names have been changed to protect the innocent.

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******* (10:10 AM)
thread about shaving: http://gofuckyourself.com/showthread...hreadid=91601=

Ray (10:10 AM)
In in there as now, lol...putting my 2 cents

****** (10:12 AM)
i agree with the dude that says who cares if they shave as long as you get paid the most

Ray (10:13 AM)
lets not go there Look at my numbers, not stats, but $$$$$.

Anyway im working on a new tgp plan for ***, Ill link you in about half hour

****** (10:16 AM)
what's you opinion? (and don't make this about ******..lol)

Ray (10:17 AM)
You know me, I would never mention names...cmon!

Ray (10:17 AM)
I posted, check it out

****** (10:18 AM)
what people never talk about is the cheating webmasters... if someone has ripped you
off of $1000 before they get caught.. how can you compensate on a slim margin as it is?

Ray (10:19 AM)
dude,,,i dont cheat, therefore i dont want to be cheated. You must deal with cheaters
with your own resorces, not mine

******(10:21 AM)
ahhh.. see.. you're only seeing it from a webmasters point of view.. now let's say a
sponser is honest.. and things are only worth $15 a signup.. would you or any webmaster
in their right mind even signup to promote your program in the first place?

****** (10:22 AM)
now lets say there's a $75 promotion day.. would you throw all your traffic to that
sponser on that day?

****** (10:23 AM)
truth is MOST webmasters are attracted by big payouts..

Ray (10:26 AM)
from you are saying here, You mean **** does shave and sort of has to because of cheaters
and because $35 promise is to high..Its simple, a sponsor should not promise $35 just to
attract webmaster. If they offer $35 they should be able to afford to pay that. How do you
afford it? Simple, make the members area worth it for the horny surfer. If the members ares
is decent, the sale will convert and reccur. As for cheater, why the fuck should the honest
one pay for that?

****** (10:30 AM)
no i am NOT saying that.. these are my PERSONAL feelings and does not reflect the company i
work for (i've been only working here for ******) i have no stake in the company.. why must
you make everything about ******?

Ray (10:31 AM)
I dont make it about *******, its just cause you work there. And Im only speculating ******
shaves, Im still pushing the program, are'nt I?

******(10:31 AM)
buddy what world are you living in? is your car insurance sky high? why is that? umm.. are
you paying for all the fraudulant claims maybe?

Ray (10:32 AM)
wrong world buddy

****** (10:33 AM)
you're an honest and good driver i'm sure.. wtf should you have to pay such high insurance
for some shitty ass driver? why do we pay such high taxes to cover all the deadbeats that
can't get real jobs?

****** (10:33 AM)
this is the world we live in.. lol.. not your "ideal" dream world

Ray (10:34 AM)
Im aware of what I pay for and why. As for shaving, thats stealing.

****** (10:34 AM)
see.. that's why i don't want to even post.. it migh be perceived that it's based on
my working at ****** which is totally untrue

****** (10:35 AM)
so you're saying your car insurance is not "stealing" your honest money with high premiums?

Ray (10:36 AM)
yep, when its time for them to pay, they do. They dont keep 1/3 pf the money for them

****** (10:37 AM)
dude.. some billing companies have shavers built in

Ray (10:37 AM)
I know

****** (10:38 AM)
billing companies need to make money too.. they probably even cheat the company they are
working for (to compensate for all those chargebacks)J

Ray (10:38 AM)
so the whole industry is filled with a buch of fucking cheats

****** (10:39 AM)
LOL.. this is the world we live in... there are cheaters in EVERY industry..
big and small.. if you find one that isn't i'll give you a million bucks.. lol

****** (10:40 AM)
it's the balance between good and evil

****** (10:40 AM)
hehe

Ray (10:40 AM)
to conclude, I dont cheat and I wish I was not cheated

****** (10:41 AM)
are you saying you never cheated in your whole life?

****** (10:41 AM)
in any way whatsover?

Ray (10:42 AM)
hmm, good question. Im sure I did, but I NEVER STOLE A FUCKING PENNY. I work very hard for
my money

****** (10:43 AM)
are you sure you never even cheated $1 on your taxes? found a way to cut your taxes down
a "little" bit?

Ray (10:44 AM)
You make it sound like its ok to steal money from webmaster who bring YOU money.

****** (10:45 AM)
no.. i don't think it's ok..

****** (10:45 AM)
i'm saying this is the real world we live in

Ray (10:46 AM)
Im glad you dont think its ok

Ray (10:46 AM)
Webmasters will unite and put a stop to it

****** (10:47 AM)
i also think it's not ok to pay high taxes.. it's not ok that we're giving refrigerators
and ACs to poor people because of 9/11 with peoples donations

****** (10:47 AM)
but what can i say? it's not gonna change

****** (10:48 AM)
yeah right.. lol.. and all the sponsers will ban together and do with per signup and all
the webmasters will cry foul

****** (10:48 AM)
do away with*

****** (10:48 AM)
there's 2 sides to ever situation.. you seem to be only seeing from the webmaster's point
of view

Ray (10:50 AM)
Would be cool if I posted this chat on GFY. I give you my word I WILL NEVER reveal who you
are. You have my word.With your permission(as a freind) you allow me to post this?

****** (10:52 AM)
yes

Ray (10:52 AM)
dude, dont worry..I stand by my word.. Ill send a copy

****** (10:53 AM)
i read a similar conversation a while back.. some "honest webmaster" wanted to start a
pay site.. and veteran webmaster was giving him tips about shaving.. etc..

Ray (10:53 AM)
yea, i remember that

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Thats it, may be nothing new, but still interesting.

later
Ray
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