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Originally Posted by websiex
Not really, I can probably write a book on why the War on Drugs is a stupid idea. Yes, you're right you don't "need" coke, but you don't need tobacco, alcohol, meat, ect... stupid argument filled with logical fallacies.
And speaking of market and death and misery... tobacco, the food corporations (65% of Americans overweight), alcohol; they all have a part in killing people. Example: 450,000 people a year die from smoking related deaths, and alcohol kills around 80,000 people anually. Technically, I think cocaine is a "soft" drug as is heroin. This is because it doesn't do much damage over time with responsibile use, unlike cigarettes which are addictive and have been proven to cause cancer. Heroin on the other hand has been researched as safe to use when used responsibly and not mixed with other drugs.
The best thing about your argument is comparing cocaine use to raping a child... can you say false analogy?
My best advice to you is to take a Critical Thinking class at a local community college, and they maybe you can stand up and debate me on issues. Until then, I suggest you research the topic, use facts, and stop using false analogies.
"destroy whatever they touch. This is known." Who knows this? They destroy everything they touch? I know people who do cocaine, and I have shaken their hand yet I'm still here. Do they make things explode or something? Do they stop society from functioning? How do they destroy things?
Research it, learn about it, and then talk about it when you're ready. Check out "Ethan Nadelmann" on youtube or google. He is a very intelligent man and speaks with rational thought. He is very realistic and knows what is going on.
PS: I don't use cocaine, but I think I should be able to if I wanted. I don't need the government to hold my hand and tell me what and what not to do; on the other hand, people like you do need to be babysitted by the government, and that is one reason why drugs are illegal.
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Well let's hope you don't write a book about it. It would be the most expensive toilet paper anyone ever wasted money on since they bought anything by Michael Moore, Noam Chomsky or Robert Fisk. Most amusing was your interpretation of my statement 'destroy everything they touch' as being literal. Lol, are you on coke or something?
Anyway, funny insults aside.
Firstly, cocaine should not be made legal just because other dangerous substances are legal.
Secondly, if people want to fuck up their own bodies then fine, but the thing with coke is that it doesn't just hurt the one taking it, it hurts everyone around them (don't take this literally
). Only a small amount, taken as a habit, is enough to render a parent or employee useless. The local homeless people where I live tend to have either a problem with booze or coke or both, but what is apparent is that the younger ones are the ones who got hooked on coke. With the alcoholics, at least they lasted longer before they fucked their lives up.
I've worked for several companies which have been run into the ground because of bosses or employees being hooked on coke. I've worked for several companies which have been run by alcoholics but which have still managed to trade, and have never worked for one which has been destroyed by smoking tobacco or weed.
Thirdly, even if it was legal then it would still be smuggled. Since the government would raise a tax on it, it would be expensive enough to make smuggling attractive. In my country (the UK), cigarettes are taxed to the point that currently a pack of twenty costs over $10. Every third cigarette sold in this country is bootleg, the profits of which go to fund amongst other things, people smuggling, terrorism and other delightful ventures.
So, what's the answer? There isn't one. There will always be weak minded people who want to shove things up their nose (I was one of them once) - it's human nature to get high. In my country, there are already too many idiots who drink 12 pints of lager in a row then start a fight. Let's not compound the problem by adding coke to the mix.
I think part of the answer comes with fighting the production and use of the drug, and an education of the population about the global effect of that bit of powder they are snorting. Also it wouldn't hurt for people to be let into the secret that it doesn't really make them look cool and it doesn't make them interesting.
For the minority of people who coke doesn't affect *too* adversely, it sucks that it is illegal. But they have to realise that they live in a society and they are not the only person on earth. Rules are almost always there for a good reason, in Western societies.
Coke isn't weed - it shouldn't be legalized.