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Old 10-29-2006, 10:00 PM  
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I knew somebody would call me on this. Basically here's the thing. I used to be wrapped up in the issue of when something becomes a human/child and when its not; whether it can think or not. But it seems to me none of that really matters and none of it gets at the essence of humanity. The way I see it now, human life is a cycle, which begins at conception. This is the only natural means for a human to come into existence. You, I, and everybody else on earth had to come from a fertilized egg - there is no other natural means of creation. Therefore, it is at conception that human life begins - it's not a child yet, but it's still a human life.

For example, if we made sure that no eggs could be fertilized today, humans would cease to exist in the near future. If we stop/kill the process at the beginning, we stop/kill the other from ever existing - therefore they're inextricably bound and are one and the same, only at different points on the stage of development.

Fuck it I will respond.
Humanity oh such a wonderful word. We are some of the most ruthless cut throat creatures on the planet. If your ideals of being humane are making a mother and or father suffer with a child of rape that will indeed be treated differently and if not still is genetically part of the rapist, it very well could carry those very traits.
Humane is preventing the suffering of something before it has to endure the pain. A child that will be born and deceased in a year or two is just prolonging life for ego. It will never procreate.
Humane is not allowing the daughter of an incestuous father to have to raise her own brother and uncle. Who very well could also be genetically fucked for life and suffer.
Humane is not allowing another unwanted child to be brought up with someone who does not want them. Possibly put through the system and if lucky gets adopted but since odds are it will be from a minority it will not be and let loose into foster care where it will be abused, molested, tortured and get extreme detachment syndrome.
Humane is knowing that the population as a whole needs controls. We are parasitic in nature and over use and exploit every possible resource we can. We are entirely over populated and if we do not correct it ourselves nature will.
Humane is respecting the choices of others regardless of your personal opinions.
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