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interracialtoons · 10-24-2006, 05:29 PM

I don't see how NATs can stop a sponsor from shaving.
There are pleny of ways to shave.

Say you send a hit to somedomain.com/index.php?nats=woieuwoie

They sponsor can easily insert a different referal code on a random basis with the php code. Or they can use SSI.

Look at my site dontfuckherdude.com I use SSI to insert the resller code and can put any code I want there. for example if a user code is not recognized(meaning garbage is attached to the link) I put in default referrl codes.

On the other hand with ccbill the affiliate uses a ccbill link and is tracked with cookies which cannot be changed by the sponsor.
There is a way to "try" to beat this, but it leaves an obvious trail for CCbill to investigate and it will be caught.

I hear a lot about cascading billing, but I never see a increase in my sales when a sponsor switches to NATS. Mostly sales appear to decline.
Hey, if a credit card doesn't work with one biller then that's enough reason for me not to even want the sale so cascading billing trying to push thru the sale doesn't acttract me. Just seems like a charge back waiting to happen.

In addition, I'm sure there are some surfers who do wht I did when I first got onto the internet...If the processor was not Epoch or CCbill, then I didn't sign up. I knew I could easily cancel with those processors without any bullshit.

Also, sponsors trying to push hosted galleries are going to lose some affiliates by not using ccbill which allows webmasters to combine all the sponsors into one account. if you use 20 nats sponsor galleries and split the sales with one sale per sponsor then you don't get paid yet. Under ccbill you would get paid from all 20 sponsors with this scenario.

10-24-2006, 05:29 PM
interracialtoons Confirmed User Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 1,910	I don't see how NATs can stop a sponsor from shaving. There are pleny of ways to shave. Say you send a hit to somedomain.com/index.php?nats=woieuwoie They sponsor can easily insert a different referal code on a random basis with the php code. Or they can use SSI. Look at my site dontfuckherdude.com I use SSI to insert the resller code and can put any code I want there. for example if a user code is not recognized(meaning garbage is attached to the link) I put in default referrl codes. On the other hand with ccbill the affiliate uses a ccbill link and is tracked with cookies which cannot be changed by the sponsor. There is a way to "try" to beat this, but it leaves an obvious trail for CCbill to investigate and it will be caught. I hear a lot about cascading billing, but I never see a increase in my sales when a sponsor switches to NATS. Mostly sales appear to decline. Hey, if a credit card doesn't work with one biller then that's enough reason for me not to even want the sale so cascading billing trying to push thru the sale doesn't acttract me. Just seems like a charge back waiting to happen. In addition, I'm sure there are some surfers who do wht I did when I first got onto the internet...If the processor was not Epoch or CCbill, then I didn't sign up. I knew I could easily cancel with those processors without any bullshit. Also, sponsors trying to push hosted galleries are going to lose some affiliates by not using ccbill which allows webmasters to combine all the sponsors into one account. if you use 20 nats sponsor galleries and split the sales with one sale per sponsor then you don't get paid yet. Under ccbill you would get paid from all 20 sponsors with this scenario. __________________ Done.