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Originally Posted by AsianDivaGirlsWebDude
Andyman, inhale...
Notwithstanding that you are probably some fake nick, many of the people who have posted in this thread whom you chose to attack have in fact done some research.
Will you deny that the U.S. at one time armed and supported Saddam/Iraq, the Taliban/Afghanistan, and even Osama Bin Laden?
Are you denying that our occupation has not made Iraq safer but has in fact, led to that nation being on the verge of a civil war (if it is not already there)?
The puppet regimes that we have established in Afghanistan and Iraq, do not have the loyalty of their own people.
In Afghanistan, opium production is way up, and the Taliban may be headed back to power.
In Iraq, electricity and water supplies are still not back to pre-invasion levels. Meanwhile the people see how we have tortured prisoners, covered up the rape and murder of innocent civilians, and thrown their nation into complete chaos, where Shiites and Sunnis are massacering each other, and Shiites fight Shiites for control.
It is not just anti-war people that want an end to the travesty and lies that form the basis of the Bush policy - it is former Generals, including those who were on the ground in Iraq, as well as the top U.K. General who recently denounced the war.
You are the one that is coming off as immature and uninformed.
If you don't believe me (BTW, I'm a military veteran), then please read again the words of Kevin Tillman, who is undeniably speaking out of true patriotism, as one who has been there, and who lost a brother there.
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Oh, I guess because you are a veteran you know everything about everything in this situation. Hat's off to you for serving, of which I respect, but that makes you know more of a reliable source than me. Yes, we did at one time sell arms to these people. How are we supposed to predict how they would all turn out. Any time a gun is sold there is a risk. The sale may lead to the protection of someones life or the death of someones life. This is always variable. Secondly, the civil strife in Iraq is due to insurgents and civil prejudices, not because of US temporary occupation. Their government is unstable because different religious sects are prejudiced. This is a constant. Third, the Taliban is far from their previous power and it will be a long time before they ever regain their former strength if they even do at all. The KKK is still around in the US. That doesn't mean that we will all be convinced by them of their racist views. Your logic is flawed. Lastly, I don't agree with everything in the "Bush" policy, but stop and think of what orders "he" can actually have carried out. If you want to know who makes alot of the bad descision, look to the generals. I believe they are denouncing it to cover up their own mistakes. The president can order troops into battle, but the congress declares war. Don't put all of the blame on Bush. I highly doubt Clinton would've handled it any better.