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Cory W · 10-12-2006, 02:04 PM

I will donate a long one to this thread:

I think it begins at the corporate level and ends at the employee level. Companies tend to confuse bottom-feeder marketing ideals with ?branding? while employees tend to confuse GFY thread views with ?being sought after.?

The two are a very fatal mix, and I can almost always predict it when I see new threads featuring new hires.

While I was at the Gay Phoenix Forum, this exact same conversation came up one evening. One of the items I found interesting was the accepted synopsis that employees can leave companies on bad terms, continue to degrade the bad relations by exhibiting nasty public behavior against the former employer, and then find a job at one of the lower level affiliate programs.

Now, please do not assume I am talking about a specific person, I am just adding to the debate. Continuing, employees at other companies see this behavior and at times, they tend to model it because on the outside there really appears to be no repercussions; in fact, there only appears to be positives. What they don?t know is that not every company in this industry can pay you very much and often times you would be better off moving on and working retail or waiting tables.

I see resumes all the time. And it is funny to see how many people think that they can degrade a former employer at a show or on message boards and still be considered for employment by Weg.

We no longer hire people to ?brand? our product; we only hire people capable of assisting our program on a multitude of levels. If your idea of ?branding? is calling other females (including models) in this industry ?whores,? or ?calling people out,? you are best to look elsewhere for employment. I don?t particularly have time to clean up messes.

The model company, in my humble opinion, is CBill. That company is run with a great sense of pride and professionalism. Of course, they are a processor, which, like Paycom, must exhibit behavior that shows your finances are in good hands; Programs that are on the front lines of adult content have a little more leeway in that department. I would also add that Paycom and Webquest to the list of model companies. (CCBill plays host to the forum, giving us insight into their entire company more than others).

You are seeing a decline in job transitions; in fact, you are seeing more and more people jump ship only to find themselves out of the industry. Companies are now coming to terms with market shares and using their funds wiser. Most new reps come in and leverage your consoles for other traffic deals (this is actually complicated financially and doesn?t really require a rep). Most programs would prefer you bring in brand new, independent webmasters. But that is complicated if you understand how adult market shares work.

I only look for people that want to grow, and I can speak for CCBill and tell you that a company like that only hires people that want to move up. Two days ago, we were trying to find a solution for writing some text on some tours we have, etc. Time was running out, I met with our designer and told him I would write it up. Another guy in our company overheard and went to his manager and told her he would be willing to do it.

That guy will probably be here a long time and make good money in the future. He is currently a temp.

Thanks for the compliment Sherm, the feeling is mutual.

10-12-2006, 02:04 PM
Cory W Deeply shallow Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Hollywood, Ca. Posts: 9,133	I will donate a long one to this thread: I think it begins at the corporate level and ends at the employee level. Companies tend to confuse bottom-feeder marketing ideals with ?branding? while employees tend to confuse GFY thread views with ?being sought after.? The two are a very fatal mix, and I can almost always predict it when I see new threads featuring new hires. While I was at the Gay Phoenix Forum, this exact same conversation came up one evening. One of the items I found interesting was the accepted synopsis that employees can leave companies on bad terms, continue to degrade the bad relations by exhibiting nasty public behavior against the former employer, and then find a job at one of the lower level affiliate programs. Now, please do not assume I am talking about a specific person, I am just adding to the debate. Continuing, employees at other companies see this behavior and at times, they tend to model it because on the outside there really appears to be no repercussions; in fact, there only appears to be positives. What they don?t know is that not every company in this industry can pay you very much and often times you would be better off moving on and working retail or waiting tables. I see resumes all the time. And it is funny to see how many people think that they can degrade a former employer at a show or on message boards and still be considered for employment by Weg. We no longer hire people to ?brand? our product; we only hire people capable of assisting our program on a multitude of levels. If your idea of ?branding? is calling other females (including models) in this industry ?whores,? or ?calling people out,? you are best to look elsewhere for employment. I don?t particularly have time to clean up messes. The model company, in my humble opinion, is CBill. That company is run with a great sense of pride and professionalism. Of course, they are a processor, which, like Paycom, must exhibit behavior that shows your finances are in good hands; Programs that are on the front lines of adult content have a little more leeway in that department. I would also add that Paycom and Webquest to the list of model companies. (CCBill plays host to the forum, giving us insight into their entire company more than others). You are seeing a decline in job transitions; in fact, you are seeing more and more people jump ship only to find themselves out of the industry. Companies are now coming to terms with market shares and using their funds wiser. Most new reps come in and leverage your consoles for other traffic deals (this is actually complicated financially and doesn?t really require a rep). Most programs would prefer you bring in brand new, independent webmasters. But that is complicated if you understand how adult market shares work. I only look for people that want to grow, and I can speak for CCBill and tell you that a company like that only hires people that want to move up. Two days ago, we were trying to find a solution for writing some text on some tours we have, etc. Time was running out, I met with our designer and told him I would write it up. Another guy in our company overheard and went to his manager and told her he would be willing to do it. That guy will probably be here a long time and make good money in the future. He is currently a temp. Thanks for the compliment Sherm, the feeling is mutual. __________________ ICQ: 292310358 Offering writing and content services (mainstream). Marketing for L3 Payments