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Xxxxxxxxx (08:12 PM) :
Hey Jay - want a brief explanation?
Jay (08:12 PM) :
sure
Jay (08:13 PM) :
i know how it works
Jay (08:13 PM) :
if they are sending traffic to us
Jay (08:13 PM) :
how do i find them
Jay (08:13 PM) :
?
Xxxxxxxxx (08:13 PM) :
You can't unfortunately
Xxxxxxxxx (08:13 PM) :
If they are your affiliates you can
Xxxxxxxxx (08:13 PM) :
Zango = 180Solutions
Xxxxxxxxx (08:13 PM) :
BUT they also sell that traffic as PPC
Jay (08:14 PM) :
gotcha
Jay (08:14 PM) :
is there something that can remove it for free?
Xxxxxxxxx (08:15 PM) :
So basically - say I wanted to bid on JAYSXXXLINKS what they do on the infected computer is YES the surfer goes to your page but the moment the word JAYSXXX or any derivative sparks their surfer, it will replace the link codes.
Xxxxxxxxx (08:15 PM) :
& go to whomever is bidding the highest
Jay (08:15 PM) :
that sucks
Xxxxxxxxx (08:16 PM) :
Now the example with Sleazy - is this
His gallery was on thehun and pointing to AFF - when the infected computer was onthe page and clicked AFF - it actually opened an AFF link BUT it sparked a popup page that forced its way over the AFF page and it was SexSearch
Xxxxxxxxx (08:18 PM) :
Now you as a sponsor CAN stop them if they are promoting you **probably by checking that the referrers match the affiliate who always sends fromthe same urls. The one that keeps sending from a million different URLS and you can'T really account for where his traffic comes from - chances are, he,s buying that stuff
Xxxxxxxxx (08:18 PM) :
OR we're fucked, cuz it doesn't necessarily mean they have an account with you.
Jay (08:19 PM) :
huh
Xxxxxxxxx (08:20 PM) :
With OCCash - you can 'prevent' it if they are your affiliate and the actual sales come from you - BUT if they redirect it to someone else then they are actually STEALING traffic that was destined for you.
**sorry had a beer and may be typing fucked up - what are you huh'ing about? LMAO
Jay (08:22 PM) :
huh how do you do that?
Xxxxxxxxx (08:22 PM) :
How do you stop them?
Xxxxxxxxx (08:23 PM) :
Or you want to know how they are hi-jacking traffic destined for you?
Jay (08:23 PM) :
either
Xxxxxxxxx (08:31 PM) :
Stopping them: possible ways...
1) educate surfers - everyone who's against it go on an all out campaign to actually get those computers clean and make them aware that 'we' are not the ones doing this. (fat chance this industry will get together and be pro-active)
2) Don't do business with people who's traffic may come from there
3) Don't do business with people who accept this *and may actually be bidding on your stuff**
4) Be vigilant with your affiliates - check their traffic sources.
BUT - it's hard to track because you are affected in more ways than one:
1) If they hi-jack traffic destined for you, there's noway to 'track' that because they never hit your join page.
2) If they are actually sending to you - either by stealing your own keywords (meaning it was a type-in from an infected computer - it will install their code/cookie & you now have to pay a commission on it whereas you weren't supposed to) or by actually stealing from a good affiliate - you can probably find those by cross-checking your affiliate referral codes. Meaning - if the referrer is 'jays-xxx-links - there's no reason that JackBlack Affiliate should be showing that as a referrer right - unless he's buying a hardlink on your LinkList and promoting OCCash.
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