Originally Posted by Pleasurepays

(yes, i am bored. wife is gone. i am busy working)



my experience has taught me that unless you write every single thing down that you put into your mouth and add it all up.. there is no real way to know. the problem is that we are all liars. we are all the best liars we know. we lie to ourselves about every single little thing that ties into self esteem and self image

i am 230 pounds at 5'10" and around 25% bodyfat at the moment. last time i tested my BMR, it was at 1900 (i.e. i should be eating 1900 calories a day to maintain, assuming i am not exercising etc). i have a very slow metabolism. even when i am training hard. when i am eating totally clean (whole, natural, good foods with no crap at all) and trying to slim down, i usually eat about 2300 a day. if i am trying to get bigger, i usually have a hard time eating more than 3500 if i'm lucky. if i am just slacking and eating crap, like i have been for the last 4 months or so, it can easily be 4000 or more.

my experience from the gym and training people is that every single person lies to themselves (myself included) about what they are eating, how much they are eating and have some pretty odd ideas about what they should be eating and how much.

a good exercise for anyone is to set a target of X,XXX calories a day as a bodybuilder would - with XX% from protein, XX% from Carbs and XX% from fat (say 40/40/20) and see how fucked up your eating is exactly. you will be surprised everytime and immediately realize what foods have a place in your diet and which do not.