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Originally posted by jammyjenkins
Here I show my confusion. How exactly is a loyalist not irish, when they're born and live in Ireland?
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That's just it. They don't consider it to be Ireland. It's part of Britain. Mutually exclusive in their minds.
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Originally posted by jammyjenkins
And now they all kick our arses at cricket/rugby
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Didn't Ireland beat England just recently in the Rugby?
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Now I can't understand why you think the British leaving would actually stop the violence.
I can't see a connection there.
To me it seems merely between the loyalists/republicans
Just like the british had nothing to do with the violence between jews and arabs in Palestein, and eventually gave up and let them fight it out.
The situation's no better there now is it?
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It's about occupation and power.
You can't compare the situation in Palestine with the Irish and the English. The loyalists and the british are one and the same (i don't mean the militan loyalists) whereas in the jew/arab analogy, the british are a third party.
There is very little violence between common people. The goal of the IRA is not to kill british people aimlessly, it's to force them out of Ireland. Once they've achieved that, the aggressive violence from the IRA will stop, and i'm guessing you'd only see defencive violence.