Originally Posted by Pleasurepays

Competing in tae kwon do competitions and actually fighting are two VERY different things. you dont get points on the street. You don't get points on the street for sloppily throwing your leg out in panic and accidentally making some sort of contact.. or for throwing your fists around as someone lunges at you.

like i said.. there is good and bad everywhere. in the US, Tae Kwon Do ranks right up there with the worst of the worst.. because the fact is, as a business, traditional martial arts just doesn't sell. I learned this the hard way from owning my own school. The sad fact is that Fantasy sells. "Easy" sells. "I want my black belt in 6 month" sells. "I want to work for it and master something at any cost and any hardship, no matter how long it takes or how much it hurts" doesn't sell at all, except to a few hardcore people. tae kwon do more than any i have seen.... sell the fantasy (with the chinese styles right behind) and the primary appeal of Tae Kwon Do is how fast you can get your black belt.

everyone is in love with what they study. thats a big mistake. there is a japanese word for it.. but i forgot it and i'm too lazy to look... but if the last 10 years has shown us anything with all the UFC, MMA fighting.. its that NO particular martial art is enough to be a superior fighter.


Since you brought up Chuck Norris... i trained with Bill Reuter for many years, who beat Chuck Norris in Japan in what i believe was the last tournament he fought in. -- tried to google it... hahaha... Chuck Norris gets much more attention than he deserves.