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Originally Posted by Dollarmansteve
Ok, I will explain everything you are asking about.
1) The plane was travelling at about 400 MPH. I can assure that there is no such thing as 'magic fuel' that manages to physically seperate itself from the fuel tanks and explode outside the building while the entire plane enters the building. A little wonder of science called "pressure" is what caused your giant fireball.. in laymans terms: there was not enough air (oxygen) inside the building for the explosive chemical reaction to consume all the fuel.. so, in an effort to get more oxygen, the explosion will travel to where there is lots of oxygen. The sheer magnitude of the explosion consumed all the air available inside the building, let's not forget the percussive shockwave created by an impact and explosion of this magnitude.
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Ok.. one more time..
watch the impact.. now pay attention.. if you actually watch, you'll see the wing tip came through the side of the bldg, and the nose came out the opposing end. then the explosion where lots & lots of fuel went up in flames.. Look at the smoke far away from the bldg.. It's black.. indicative of burning fuel.. Black smoke out the windows/structure is from oxygen depletion. Nothing magic about it.. Play it over and over.. watch the side open up.. watch the nose come out..
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No, but steel doesnt have to melt to lost most of its structural integrity.
Here's a science experiment you can do at home:
Take a wire coat hanger. Bend it - make a note of how much force it takes to bend the metal.
Take a lighter and hold the flame under a piece of the coat hanger for, oh, say 5 minutes.
Now, bend the metal again - Amazing!! See how much weaker the hot-yet-non-melted metal is! Science is fun!! Structural steel behaves in much the same way. Dont believe me? then you're crazy and/or retarded.
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Wow... I'm impressed! and I believe ya.. Now apply that fun bit of science to how it would actually apply..
Take 2 hanger size wires about 2 feet long and place them parallel to each other about a foot apart.. off the floor a bit.. place a 2x4 across them and set a bottle or whatever in the center of board.. now hold that lighter to one of the wires til it weakens to the point of giving in to the weight of the board. Oh no! The bottle has toppled to one side.. the other wire stood fast while supporting an equal amount of weight..
One side of the bldg burned.. the other side didn't, yet it came down
at the same time as the burned side.
Gotta love that science stuff..
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Actually, this is completely false. Please cite your source. They were NOT engineered to take the impace of 757-sized commercial jets travelling at 400mph.
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In the early 1970's the World Trade Center's chief structural engineer, Leslie Robertson, calculated the effect of the impact of a Boeing 707 with the World Trade Center towers. His results were reported in the New York Times where it was claimed that Robertson's study proved the towers would withstand the impact of a Boeing 707 moving at 600 miles an hour. Little did he know that decades later two aircraft, almost identical to the Boeing 707, would impact the towers.
and:
Frank DeMartini, WTC Construction and Project Mgmt.
The maximum takeoff weight for a Boeing 707-320B is 336,000 pounds.
The maximum takeoff weight for a Boeing 767-200ER is 395,000 pounds.
The wingspan of a Boeing 707 is 146 feet.
The wingspan of a Boeing 767 is 156 feet.
The length of a Boeing 707 is 153 feet.
The length of a Boeing 767 is 159 feet.
The Boeing 707 could carry 23,000 gallons of fuel.
The Boeing 767 could carry 23,980 gallons of fuel.
Not alot of difference... Oh so wrong I am...
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This is a lie propogated across the internet by such geniuses as Dylan Avery and Phoenix. Watch every internet video on this subject - none of their 'sophisticated timing mecanisms' actually start when the building begins to fail, nor do they end at the right time. It is impossible to see the whole collapse because of the debris cloud - and thus it is impossible to accurately time the collapse.
95% of everything you just said is not true.
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NIST estimated the elapsed times for the first exterior panels to strike the ground after the collapse initiated in each of the towers to be approximately 11 seconds for WTC 1 and approximately 9 seconds for WTC 2. These elapsed times were based on: (1) precise timing of the initiation of collapse from video evidence, and (2) ground motion (seismic) signals recorded at Palisades, N.Y., that also were precisely time-calibrated for wave transmission times from lower Manhattan (see NCSTAR 1-5A).
NIST
Hmmm....
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???? I dont even know how to comment on the above statement.. there is absolutely no rationale/logic/thinking/brain activity going on there.
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Yes.. I noticed
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I have lots of answers!! keep on asking!!
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Wow you're good.. but wait.. what answers did you give? One attempt about the neat pressure thing? Flailing words do not an answer make.. No links or sources..?
Damn this is fun..