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Originally Posted by spunkmaster
The PA still requires probable cause so they can't log on to your computer to see which sites you visit unles they have something on you first.
Trust me I'm one of the most anti Gov't people here (not in the terrorist way FYI) but as far as the Gov't getting in to peoples lives where they have no right to and so far the PA isn't been abused except they did use it to bust Paypal on their casino transactions.
I deal with Banking and there's been some changes but nothing that most banks weren't already doing. It just a fact that terrorists like to send money via common international transfers.
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i think you have missed the boat, no disrespect, but here's why... agreed, you must have probably cause, but probable cause is a fantasy.. if you were drug dealer and i had an illegal wiretap on you and i heard you talking about selling drugs on said illegal wiretap... if i (the govt) really wanted to bust you, dont you think it would be a lot easier to get probable cause? let me answer that for you, the answer is yes... the issue i have is that the govt is using the PA and other national security protocals to violate many constitutional rights.. and is this effort to protect us from terrorism? no, its so that the govt can data mine our private lives in an effort to control how we think and feel.. you may think that this is all tin foil fodder, but let me know how you feel in the next 5-10 years when your civil liberties have been eroded to an uncomfortable state.. a state, where you actually realize how much freedom you have lost... at that point it will be too late...
let me give you a real world example... gas is lets say $2.00 a gallon.. in a few weeks time, it rises to $3.00 a gallon... you are outraged as well as many others... gas then goes down to $2.25 a few weeks later... you are happy... why, becauce gas is cheaper... well its not cheaper than it was 6 weeks ago.. but you forget about that becuase its better than it was...
get my point? well you should becuase it just happened to you over the last 18 months... dont belive me? go look online for the average gas price 18 months ago...