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Originally Posted by Digipimp
I actually think we're safer today than ever before, but that doesnt mean that we're safe, just safer than before. I don't think thanks for that goes to George Bush, more so it goes to general awareness. But there is still so much to be done that hasn't been done to make us safer.
Violence is never the solution, but it's always part of the solution. You have to embrace all means to your end and be willing to use any of them in order to be effective.
I won't even go into the Patriot Act because I know there won't be one person here that has read the whole thing including myself, much less most of the people in congress so that's debating something that we don't have all the knowledge about which isn't that smart.
Killing is justified sometimes and so is violence whether you like it or not thats just reality. What's laughable to me is that you nearly miss the whole point. The masses of people don't care or know about what happens in most of the world. Religious fundamentalism and thinking that you are somehow smart enough to tell others how they should live their lives in the real enemy and that enemy is here and there. It's not a debate about if somehow a radical religious nut is sometimes justified.
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I appreciate your response.
And agree that I am not qualified to debate the Patriot Act (even if I beleive that the concept of "reduced personal freedoms for the sake of safety" is an important discussion.)
And while I agree that violence is reality (kinda the point I was trying to make), I disagree that response to violence must always include violence.
(And think Jesus would argue that killing is *not* "just a reality," too.)