Originally Posted by Pleasurepays

so now people don't get arrested and held in jail without bond?

is your whole "bush took away our rights" argument really resting on a single case of a guy who was training with al queda to detonate a nuclear device in the US?

surely you must have 1000's of examples of this new police state that Bush created? i mean, everyone that doesn't see it your way is a complete idiot right? so, you could explain it. not with rhetoric... but with all the cases of innocent people being snatched off the street by men in black never to be seen again.

the irony of people in your position with your views.. is that you accuse Bush and the administration of creating a police state and babble on and on about how bad everything is and how its only getting worse and can't seem to see that you are no better. there is no difference between you using scare tactics and drama to paint a picture of your twisted, paranoid and horror filled view of reality than it is for the adminstration to raise the terror alert levels for their own means.

--- but thats always ok. its another trademark of liberalism, "the end, justifies the means"