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Originally Posted by Mutt
i'd love to hear what JMM considers 'ruining someone's life' - cuz i've discussed that with my partner and the only way a site would ever come down we've decided is if was a dying girl's last request - i can't think of any other moral dilemma where taking down a site would be justified.
do you think VIVID Video or any other video company will recall DVD's when a model's life is 'ruined'? What about Hustler or Penthouse magazine? Why is the website operator any different?
no girl's life is ruined by a website - the wheels of her ruination if there is any were put in place by her and whoever raised her long before she ever takes off her clothes for a camera.
if the ruination of a life is 'my parents are freaking out' 'my friends are calling me a slut' 'my boyfriend is upset and he's going to leave me' - one big fucking YAWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWNNNNN - there is no ruination of a life there - just an 18 year old learning to deal with consequences of her actions.
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There aren't a lot of intelligent people in this business so it isn't that easy to have an intelligent business discussion. However, Mutt, you are one of the intelligent ones, so I will respond.
I said earlier we took a girls sets off of one of our sites at her request. When we shot the girl, she was 18 and stupid. Most of them are 18 and stupid when they shoot. We paid her $500 for the shoot, we made that back in a couple of days. Fast forward 4 years. The girl is 22 and has just completed 2 years of training to become an EMT with the county fire department. 3 weeks before her graduation someone at the department stumbles across her sets. She is told point blank, if the pictures dont come down, you are out. Are you HONESTLY telling me that you would tell this girl to go fuck herself? Of course you wouldn't. And to be 100% honest, I would not want to know or do business with ANYONE that would tell her to go fuck herself in this situation. That is just my opinion.
Another case. Just recently, here in Austin, some FINE ART NUDES of a teacher were discovered on the net. There was nothing pornographic about them. This woman, who dedicated her life to teaching, will NEVER teach again. A little different situation of course, but it pretty much fucked up her life.
Those are just two examples. We could sit here all day and come up with a few hundred hypothetical scenarios. A website IS different than a magazine or a DVD. Magazines and DVD's have limited runs and limited lives. Sure, they hang around a long time in someones basement or under the mattress, but for the most part, they are on the stand for a month and then they are all but forgotten until they appear again 6 years later in a plastic wrapped 3 pack at the 7-11. Websites are NOW. As long as they are up, they will always be NOW. It is a big difference.
If a model came to me tomorrow and wanted to get out of her site, I would do everything I could to come up with a compromise where all parties, me, her, and the affiliates, are not harmed. I wouldn't simply have a blanket policy of NO. There are several things that can be done that wouldn't hurt my business or the affiliates. If it turned out that was not the case, well then the answer might very well be, I'm sorry, but NO.