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Originally Posted by pr0
think maybe it has more to do with the upcoming elections than a possible war?
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Thats an excellent point, it could be the elections or it could be both. Would it not make perfect sense if something did happened just before the elections ?
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Originally Posted by Chief
You know how Germany dealt with hostile occupations in WWII? For every German soldier killed they marched out and shot dozens, or hundreds of people from the surronding villages. It solved the problems. The Muslim forces may be fanatical but, just as the Japanese were in WWII (remember they killed themselves to, shot to their last bullet and ran at the line with swords drawn only to be mowed down, and more).
I do agree that there are better ways to defeat extremism in the Middle East, but in reality it could be achieved military were the US not so concerned about how things would play at home. If the US is put back into a mindset, such as they were in WWII were dropping nukes doesn't even raise too much concern with the wider public, I don't think they'd have a major problem controlling Iran. The Japanese of WWII were even more fanatical than Iran is today (and MUCH more evenly armed), and look where they are now.
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That?s a great post! A lot of people in this thread fail to see that fanatics are nothing new and the terrorism threat is so far exaggerated that it?s laughable
The worst part - Islamic extremism is the result of the last 50 years of British, American, Russian and Israeli policy in the Middle East. We helped create it by doing pretty much what we're doing again now: occupying the region in our own interest (i.e. oil).
We created the problem!!
The government response is not proportional to the threat. If the aim is to save lives, that can be much better achieved by other means and by tackling different problems. Of course we shouldn't ignore the threat of terrorism, but the vast sums of money spent so far in the name of The War Against Terror (TWAT) in Iraq and Afghanistan have increased the threat, not reduced it. That's like trying to persuade people to stop smoking by making cigarettes cheaper.
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Originally Posted by Chief
I am not in favour of it, in fact I am not in favour of the neo-con 'clash of civilisations', nor do I think it will achieve what they want.
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Read this and let me know your thoughts, I think the article sums up nicely why we have been told that Iran is a threat
http://www.atimes.com/atimes/China/GF04Ad07.html